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Death record Caterina La Magra

Postby lilbees » 24 Sep 2012, 16:39

I am confused as to the date of death.

Father: Francesco La Magra
Mother: Giuseppa ?????????

Can someone help out.

http://imageshack.us/a/img11/4602/cater ... ath190.jpg
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Re: Death record Caterina La Magra

Postby Tessa78 » 24 Sep 2012, 16:48

I am confused as to the date of death. "ieri"-yesterday (14 January 1901)

Father: Francesco La Magra
Mother: Giuseppa ?????????

Can someone help out.

http://imageshack.us/a/img11/4602/cater ... ath190.jpg
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Re: Death record Caterina La Magra

Postby lilbees » 24 Sep 2012, 17:34

Hey T, any luck with mother Giuseppa's last name? That is why I posted both records and make it out on either. Am going through the San Giovanni files to see if I can find anything.

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Re: Death record Caterina La Magra

Postby liviomoreno » 24 Sep 2012, 17:47

I read Chisicopio...
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Re: Death record Caterina La Magra

Postby lilbees » 24 Sep 2012, 18:41

Thanks Livio. All I came up with was CHIERCHIA. Still going through the records to see if there may be a different spelling or confirming what we see.

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Re: Death record Caterina La Magra

Postby erudita74 » 24 Sep 2012, 21:54

Do you have copies of any of the indices for the town's records? Sometimes an index helps with identifying the surnames in a town's records.

I found the attached website which lists Italian surnames, even alphabetically, but I am getting no where with this surname. I even thought that possibly the beginning of the surname might be Chirico with pio at the end, but can't find evidence of the existence of any such surname.

http://cognome.alfemminile.com/w/cognom ... ti-16.html
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Re: Death record Caterina La Magra

Postby lilbees » 25 Sep 2012, 00:49

Thank you. I will pull up some of the indexes and see what I can find.

Thank you again, be back soon.

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Re: Death record Caterina La Magra

Postby lilbees » 26 Sep 2012, 13:52

I have been able to come up with, I think, Francesco La Magra's death record dated 1890 in San Giovanni Gemini. The name of the wife is different. Listed as Rosalia Tagliareni. But, the mother's name is Giuseppa Cardella. The age at death is listed as 82. I am seeking additional information to confirm whether this is all correct. I found only one other child, Vincenza La Magra, who died just before Caterina with the same father. Going through the indexes I have not found any name close to the mother listed on Caterina's death record. Have checked Ancestry, the phone listings in Italy, message boards, Ancestry, and RootsWeb without finding anything even close. Could this be an error of the informant???

http://imageshack.us/a/img716/7595/fran ... eath18.jpg

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Re: Death record Caterina La Magra

Postby liviomoreno » 26 Sep 2012, 15:15

lilbees wrote:I have been able to come up with, I think, Francesco La Magra's death record dated 1890 in San Giovanni Gemini. The name of the wife is different. Listed as Rosalia Tagliareni. But, the mother's name is Giuseppa Cardella. The age at death is listed as 82. I am seeking additional information to confirm whether this is all correct. I found only one other child, Vincenza La Magra, who died just before Caterina with the same father. Going through the indexes I have not found any name close to the mother listed on Caterina's death record. Have checked Ancestry, the phone listings in Italy, message boards, Ancestry, and RootsWeb without finding anything even close. Could this be an error of the informant???

http://imageshack.us/a/img716/7595/fran ... eath18.jpg

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I believe this is another Francesco...
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Re: Death record Caterina La Magra

Postby lilbees » 26 Sep 2012, 15:56

Guess I will keep looking. Thanks Livio.

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Re: Death record Caterina La Magra

Postby lilbees » 03 Oct 2012, 06:25

Well, finally found the mother of Caterina La Magra. I found it on Caterina's brother Giuseppe's death record.

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Father: Francesco Catalano
Mother: Giuseppa Sorce Procopio (which is the surname of the mother, Sorce or Procopio?

My question on this is the dual names. Was it common in the Agrigento province to carry two last names. Just a little confused.

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Re: Death record Caterina La Magra

Postby lilbees » 03 Oct 2012, 13:42

The name Pricopio does not exist so I tried changing the first vowel to an "a" then and "o". I am still concerned what I look for in the indexes. Sorce or Procopio?

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Re: Death record Caterina La Magra

Postby erudita74 » 03 Oct 2012, 23:06

lilbees wrote:The name Pricopio does not exist so I tried changing the first vowel to an "a" then and "o". I am still concerned what I look for in the indexes. Sorce or Procopio?

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The surname "Pricopi" does exist in the current Italian white pages, so I assume that the "o" at the end was dropped at some point.
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Re: Death record Caterina La Magra

Postby lilbees » 04 Oct 2012, 00:52

Duh! Should have looked there first. erudita74 or Livio, can you explain anything about the double surnames and how do you know about the first surname? I understand it somewhat in Spanish naming but at a lost for the Italian.

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Re: Death record Caterina La Magra

Postby erudita74 » 04 Oct 2012, 02:02

For reference, I have found some earlier threads on this forum which you can access through the following link. Quite frankly,I am still baffled by the use of double surnames in my one ancestral town.

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