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Need help with a translation

Postby gemellua » 30 Apr 2013, 19:23

I need help translating the following birth record -

Giuseppa Muscarella

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... n676419242

The line where her mother's name is written - Cecilia Panzarella - what does it stated after the name?

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Re: Need help with a translation

Postby erudita74 » 30 Apr 2013, 20:01

gemellua wrote:I need help translating the following birth record -

Giuseppa Muscarella

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... n676419242

The line where her mother's name is written - Cecilia Panzarella - what does it stated after the name?

Thanks!


It says "sua legittima moglie seco lui convivente"- which means "his legitimate wife who was cohabiting or living with him"

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Re: Need help with a translation

Postby gemellua » 01 May 2013, 18:45

Thank you Erudita!

I have another that needs your expertise - I'd can't make out what is written in the margin under Anna Montalbano - I think it is stating that she married Croce or Ciro I .... in 1933 in Termini Imerese?

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... n676419242

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Re: Need help with a translation

Postby erudita74 » 01 May 2013, 23:39

gemellua wrote:Thank you Erudita!

I have another that needs your expertise - I'd can't make out what is written in the margin under Anna Montalbano - I think it is stating that she married Croce or Ciro I .... in 1933 in Termini Imerese?

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... n676419242


You're very welcome. I hate to tell you that I am stuck on the notation in the margin, but I am. All I can read is the date and place of the marriage, but not the groom's name. I can't even tell which is the first name and which is his surname. It reads 12.11.1933 (Nov 12, 1933) sposato con (groom's name?) in Sciara. Hopefully one of the other translators on the forum will have a suggestion as to the name.
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Re: Need help with a translation

Postby PippoM » 02 May 2013, 09:34

Surname (the second word) might be Arena (it is currently present in Sciara), but I can't figure out the name. I will think over it.
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Re: Need help with a translation

Postby erudita74 » 02 May 2013, 12:39

PippoM wrote:Surname (the second word) might be Arena (it is currently present in Sciara), but I can't figure out the name. I will think over it.


Pippo

Good suggestion, but I went through the other records for that year and see that the surname in the marriage notations was written first followed by the first name. So I'm not sure you are correct.

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Re: Need help with a translation

Postby gemellua » 02 May 2013, 22:35

Thank you so much Erudita and Pippo for your help. :D

I first thought it could be Ippolito (written quickly). It's a name familar to my family that is also from Sciara via Carini. Hmm...Arena. I'll have to look at the content lists to see if I can trace the line back. Man-it's too bad we can't accept the 1933 records, this would make life easier! :wink:

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Re: Need help with a translation

Postby erudita74 » 03 May 2013, 00:56

gemellua wrote:Thank you so much Erudita and Pippo for your help. :D

I first thought it could be Ippolito (written quickly). It's a name familar to my family that is also from Sciara via Carini. Hmm...Arena. I'll have to look at the content lists to see if I can trace the line back. Man-it's too bad we can't accept the 1933 records, this would make life easier! :wink:


Definitely not Ippolito. I am sending you a private message.

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