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Translation of Casagrande Passport

Postby silhouettecutter » 01 Dec 2013, 19:47

Can someone please translate this please esp the date of issue.
Thanks, There are four photos of this it was rather a large document and it arrived in four photo copies.It belonged to my Great Great grandfather Antonio Casagrande.
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Re: Translation of Casagrande Passport

Postby silhouettecutter » 01 Dec 2013, 19:49

The last part of the document.
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Re: Translation of Casagrande Passport

Postby liviomoreno » 02 Dec 2013, 08:39

The passport was issued in Chiavari Jan 24 1849 and is valid for New York. The notation, dated Feb 13 1949, on the last image states rìthat Antonio is accompanied by his son Gerolamo.
Antonio, aged 30, resided in Orero (Genova) and was called to go in US by Michele Biggio, property owner, residing there.
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Re: Translation of Casagrande Passport

Postby silhouettecutter » 06 Jan 2014, 21:41

When a relative gave us a copy of this passport it had a translation of sorts with it. We had reached so many dead ends in finding the ship he arrived on that we suspected that it might be a flawed translation and YES after you translated the dates the passport was issued we realize the old papers did not have an accurate translation done on them. Would it be possible now to get the entire document translated? You have helped us greatly by giving us not only a correct date but a new Spelling of his sons name...we were not even aware he was listed on this passport! Thank you very much.
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Re: Translation of Casagrande Passport

Postby Tessa78 » 06 Jan 2014, 22:49

In the notation that Livio translated for 13 February, Gerolamo is identified as "d'anni otto" - 8 years of age.

The left column identifies Antonio's physical characteristics, residence and occupation :-)

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Age – 30
Stature
Hair – blonde
Forehead – medium
Eyebrows – brown (chestnut)
Eyes – grey
Nose – medium
Mouth – same
Beard – brown (chestnut)
Face – round
Complexion – natural
Particular marks – none

Occupation – Peasant farmer

Residence – Orero

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Re: Translation of Casagrande Passport

Postby liviomoreno » 07 Jan 2014, 08:50

Antonio was about 1,63 mt high. The passport states "38 oncie". I did some research and according to: http://xoomer.virgilio.it/vannigor/unitadimisura.htm in Piemonte 1 oncia = 1/12 piede, 1 piede = 51,44cm
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Re: Translation of Casagrande Passport

Postby silhouettecutter » 07 Jan 2014, 16:21

This is great to have a correct translation! Does it give any information as to where either Antonio or Gerolamo were born or any other information that would be useful intracking them in Italy? They lived in Orero ,is it likely Gerolamo was born there? Thank you very much for your help! Does it give the location of Michael Biggo in the United States?
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Re: Translation of Casagrande Passport

Postby liviomoreno » 07 Jan 2014, 16:38

Antonio was born in Genova, son of unknown parents
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Re: Translation of Casagrande Passport

Postby silhouettecutter » 07 Jan 2014, 16:53

Does that mean he was an orphan? I read somewhere that Casagrande was a name given to orphans.
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Re: Translation of Casagrande Passport

Postby liviomoreno » 07 Jan 2014, 16:59

Not necessarily an orphan, he could have been abandoned by his mother when he was born
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Re: Translation of Casagrande Passport

Postby silhouettecutter » 07 Jan 2014, 17:06

Does it give a name for Gerolamo's mother's name anywhere?
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Re: Translation of Casagrande Passport

Postby liviomoreno » 07 Jan 2014, 17:11

silhouettecutter wrote:Does it give a name for Gerolamo's mother's name anywhere?
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Re: Translation of Casagrande Passport

Postby silhouettecutter » 07 Jan 2014, 17:33

Thank you for all your help!!! Any ideas/direction on our next step to finding additional birth/death /marriage records in Italy?
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Re: Translation of Casagrande Passport

Postby Tessa78 » 07 Jan 2014, 17:44

liviomoreno wrote:Antonio was about 1,63 mt high. The passport states "38 oncie". I did some research and according to: http://xoomer.virgilio.it/vannigor/unitadimisura.htm in Piemonte 1 oncia = 1/12 piede, 1 piede = 51,44cm


Hi Livio :-D

That "oncie" measurement had me stumped!
Thanks for the resource.

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Re: Translation of Casagrande Passport

Postby silhouettecutter » 07 Jan 2014, 18:21

That makes him around 5 foot 4 or 5 inches correct?
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