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Death Record help

Postby bvbellomo » 27 Jan 2014, 23:00

Here is the 28 Oct 1811 death record of Maria Di Valerio, age 30, wife of Vincenzo Della Porta, born, lived and died in Cercemaggiore. I have the actual record, and a copy from a marriage:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3322562/records/Porta%20Vincenzo/Valerio%20Maria%20Death.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3322562/records/Porta%20Vincenzo/Valerio%20Maria%20Death%202.jpg

What is her father's name? Looks like 'Costanzao'? What about her mother? Angela Colagiovanni? Are they still alive? Is her husband ailve? Is this his 2nd marriage? Does it name his first wife or his parents? Any place other than Cercemaggiore mentioned? What are the children's names mentioned?

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Re: Death Record help

Postby liviomoreno » 27 Jan 2014, 23:12

Maria Valerio 2nd wife of living Vincenzo della Porta, daughter of living Costanzo Valerio and of living Angela Colagiovanni, died 28 Oct 1811, aged 30, born in Cercemaggiore. The children are Michele and Domenica

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Re: Death Record help

Postby bvbellomo » 28 Jan 2014, 18:24

Here is Domenica's death record. It is witnessed by a Michele la Porta, who is too old to be the Michele on the previous record. I think it says how he is related to Domenica, but I can't read it. Can someone tell me what it says?

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3322562/records/Porta%20Vincenzo/Domenica%20death.jpg

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Re: Death Record help

Postby liviomoreno » 28 Jan 2014, 18:35

It just says "Parente della defunta" "relative of the deceased. Doesn't sya how they are related.

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Re: Death Record help

Postby bvbellomo » 29 Jan 2014, 21:06

Finally found what I think is Vincenzo's 3rd marriage:

http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.it/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=59612704

There is a lot here, can anyone help me with the names and dates of death?

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Re: Death Record help

Postby liviomoreno » 30 Jan 2014, 07:11

1812 May 5
Vincenzo La Porta 37y and 1month old, peasant farmer, son of Giuseppe La Porta who died in Cercemaggiore 1811 Dec 13 and son of Carmina Petronja (sp?) who died in Cercemaggiore 1807 Nov 8, widower of Maria Valerio (2nd wife) who died in Cercemaggiore 1811 Oct 28
Mariantonia ???? Di Maria, 33years an 8 months old, daughter of Nicola De Maria who died in Cercemaggiore 1796, Dec 5 and daughter of Angiola Rosa Zappone who died in C. 1799 March 10 widow of Giuseppe Zappone who died in C. 1809 July 27. Also Nicola Zappone and Orsola Fontana maternal grandparents of the bride are dead but she does not know when and where.

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Re: Death Record help

Postby erudita74 » 30 Jan 2014, 14:39

The date at the top of the record is May 4, 1812.

The middle name of the bride was Lucrezia-her name was Mariantonia Lucrezia di Maria. You can clearly see her middle name later in the record.

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Postby liviomoreno » 30 Jan 2014, 15:06

erudita74 wrote:The date at the top of the record is May 4, 1812.

The middle name of the bride was Lucrezia-her name was Mariantonia Lucrezia di Maria. You can clearly see her middle name later in the record.

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I don't know why I wrote 5 instead of 4...
and I know why I overlooked Mariantonia's middle name.
Thanks for backing me up!

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Re: Death Record help

Postby bvbellomo » 30 Jan 2014, 15:12

Does it say Vincenzo's first wife's name?

Does it say when Carmina died?

Here is Giuseppe's death record:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3322562/records/Porta%20Giuseppe%20I/death.jpg

I can't read his wife's name, but it doesn't look like Carmina Petronja.

It doesn't say his parents are dead, and says where they are from (Cercepiccola and Cercemaggiore). Does this mean they are alive? His father is Giorgio, can you read his mother's name?

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Re: Death Record help

Postby erudita74 » 30 Jan 2014, 17:32

bvbellomo wrote:Does it say Vincenzo's first wife's name?

Does it say when Carmina died?

Here is Giuseppe's death record:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3322562/records/Porta%20Giuseppe%20I/death.jpg

I can't read his wife's name, but it doesn't look like Carmina Petronja.

It doesn't say his parents are dead, and says where they are from (Cercepiccola and Cercemaggiore). Does this mean they are alive? His father is Giorgio, can you read his mother's name?



The death record of Giuseppe della Porta
Dated Sept 15, 1811 at 3:30 P.M.
He died at 1 in the night at age 59.
He was the husband of Maria Teresa Berardo, and the son of Giorgio della Porta of Cercepiccola and Domenica(???) Testa of Cerecmaggiore; peasant/farmers living in this town on Strada Portabella. He left behind his wife and three adult children: Vincenzo, Cosmo, and Antonio. The informants on the record were acquaintances and in no way related.

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Re: Death Record help

Postby bvbellomo » 30 Jan 2014, 18:13

Thanks, but any idea if his parents were dead or alive at the time?

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Re: Death Record help

Postby erudita74 » 30 Jan 2014, 18:23

bvbellomo wrote:Thanks, but any idea if his parents were dead or alive at the time?



Obviously, they were alive if they were living in the town on the street mentioned in my reply.
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