2 bambino death records to Domenico Ciampa within 1 year?

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2 bambino death records to Domenico Ciampa within 1 year?

Postby misschristi16 » 04 Mar 2014, 23:02

#1 Francescantonio Ciampa bambino of Domenico Ciampa and Maria Cappiello. Died August 1897

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... 1791685982

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Donato Ciampa, bambino of Domenico Ciampa and Maria Cappiello. Died--June of 1898--cannot make out the day. Any help would be appreciated.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... 1791685982

Both babies to the same family--10 months apart. Could one be older than a new baby? Please help with translation.
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Re: 2 bambino death records to Domenico Ciampa within 1 year

Postby erudita74 » 05 Mar 2014, 01:39

You've accidentally posted the same link twice, so I can only see the record for Francescantonio dated Aug 2, 1897. He died yesterday on the 1st, at the age of 8 months, in the house at #56 via Santa Maria. He was the son of Domenico Ciampa and Maria Cappiello, both peasant/farmers.

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Death Record Donato Ciampa

Postby AngelaGrace56 » 05 Mar 2014, 04:08

I think this is the link you were intending:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... 1791685982

You are right, Donato was an older child.

Death Record Index #16 Donato Ciampa
Dated 12 June 1898
He died yesterday (ieri), so 11 June 1898 and was aged 4 years.
Different address: Via Santa Maria No 21
Parents: Domenico Ciampa, Farmer and Maria Cappiello, Farmer

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Re: 2 bambino death records to Domenico Ciampa within 1 year

Postby AngelaGrace56 » 05 Mar 2014, 04:30

AngelaGrace56 wrote:I think this is the link you were intending:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... 1791685982

You are right, Donato was an older child.

Death Record Index #16 Donato Ciampa
Dated 12 June 1898
He died yesterday (ieri), so 11 June 1898 and was aged 4 years.
Different address: Via Santa Maria No 21
Parents: Domenico Ciampa, Farmer and Maria Cappiello, Farmer

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Just wanted to add that one of the declarers of the event was Donato Ciampa, age 30, farmer living in Rapone so he was possibly an uncle to the children?

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Re: 2 bambino death records to Domenico Ciampa within 1 year

Postby misschristi16 » 05 Mar 2014, 04:42

Thanks for the help. Sorry I posted the same link--that is what I get when I am rushing out the door. :?

Question--does it state how the 4 yr. old died? Do they list that in death records, or do they just record a death?
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Re: 2 bambino death records to Domenico Ciampa within 1 year

Postby AngelaGrace56 » 05 Mar 2014, 05:36

misschristi16 wrote:Thanks for the help. Sorry I posted the same link--that is what I get when I am rushing out the door. :?

Question--does it state how the 4 yr. old died? Do they list that in death records, or do they just record a death?


You are very welcome.

I can't see anything obvious there and my understanding is that they don't normally state what caused the death. I have only seen the cause of death noted twice in my records and this occurred when in each case my 2 respective ancestors died in another country (ie not in Italy). Both their records appeared in the supplementary register (Part II) which usually appears at the end of the respective year. (Sorry this sounds a little clumsy - just let me know if it doesn't make sense to you. :) )

I hope this helps.

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Re: 2 bambino death records to Domenico Ciampa within 1 year

Postby misschristi16 » 05 Mar 2014, 21:09

Ang--
Thanks for all your help. I understand everything you said. I also realize children got sick much worse back then, than they do now.
on your post where you mentioned a Donato Ciampa was one of the declarants of death--it could very well be their uncle. Domenico had a brother Donato who was 30 at that time! That is interesting. And, also thanks for looking up that other link for me and translating it. I appreciate it!
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Re: 2 bambino death records to Domenico Ciampa within 1 year

Postby AngelaGrace56 » 05 Mar 2014, 21:57

misschristi16 wrote:Ang--
Thanks for all your help. I understand everything you said. I also realize children got sick much worse back then, than they do now.
on your post where you mentioned a Donato Ciampa was one of the declarants of death--it could very well be their uncle. Domenico had a brother Donato who was 30 at that time! That is interesting. And, also thanks for looking up that other link for me and translating it. I appreciate it!


So glad I could help. :D

Yes the mortality rate among children was extremely high back then. Just to mention one: my great aunt during the late 1800s had four children, three of which died as children. There were lots of other instances also. Very sad. During 1864 approximately 50% of the deaths recorded in my town related to children. I guess some years there were epidemics as well and the percentage may have been even greater. This is something I need to look into further for myself some time.

Yes, I wondered whether Donato might either have been a brother or even a cousin of Domenico.

All the best with your continuing search. :)

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