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Ciampi, Rocco Birth

Postby dmurphy1940 » 08 Jun 2014, 20:36

Numero 250 for a translation please.

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Re: Ciampi, Rocco Birth

Postby Tessa78 » 09 Jun 2014, 03:20

There is no record #250 at this link :?

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Re: Ciampi, Rocco Birth

Postby dmurphy1940 » 09 Jun 2014, 14:30

Sorry, it should have said 136, a Rocco Ciampi?
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Re: Ciampi, Rocco Birth

Postby erudita74 » 09 Jun 2014, 15:17

Dated Dec 21, 1869 in Frigento
Appearing was Vito Ciampi, son of deceased Nunziante, age 41, peasant/farmer in the town.
He reported that at 2.m. today, in the territory Contrada Confine', his wife, Mariantonia D'Avino, a peasant/farmer living with him, gave birth to their son, Rocco Ciampi, whom he was presenting.
Witnesses were Angelo Michele Carpinella, the son of deceased Carlo, age 46, property owner, and Bernardo Famgietti, of deceased Carmincantonio, age 30, peasant/farmer, both residents in the town.

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Re: Ciampi, Rocco Birth

Postby dmurphy1940 » 09 Jun 2014, 15:50

Thank you, Erudita.
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Re: Ciampi, Rocco Birth

Postby erudita74 » 09 Jun 2014, 16:11

Oops. Time was 2 a.m. I left out the "a"

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Re: Ciampi, Rocco Birth

Postby dmurphy1940 » 09 Jun 2014, 16:31

Thanks!
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Re: Ciampi, Rocco Birth

Postby dmurphy1940 » 09 Jun 2014, 18:19

Erudita, does it say the number of Contrada Confine? It may help.
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Re: Ciampi, Rocco Birth

Postby erudita74 » 09 Jun 2014, 19:37

Dolores,
Unfortunately, there is no number on Contrada Confine', but this record reads very differently from the other records you have. It says:

in questo tenimento alla Contrada Confine'

I have never before seen the word "tenimento" but I have found synonyms for it such as estate, farm, property. Contadini, or peasant/farmers, did work on properties, possibly a farm or estate, which they did not necessarily own. They may have worked as sharecroppers, which would be similar to them having been tenant farmers who would lease a small plot of land from a wealthy landlord for a period of time, such as a year at a time. In addition to the rent they would pay the landlord, they would then also have to give him a portion of the crops they grew.

So, in this record, I really don't know for sure to what the word "tenimento" refers.

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Re: Ciampi, Rocco Birth

Postby dmurphy1940 » 09 Jun 2014, 21:40

Very interesting, Erudita, I appreciate it!!!
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Re: Ciampi, Rocco Birth

Postby erudita74 » 09 Jun 2014, 23:21

dmurphy1940 wrote:Very interesting, Erudita, I appreciate it!!!


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Re: Ciampi, Rocco Birth

Postby dmurphy1940 » 09 Jun 2014, 23:53

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