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Martone, Angelo Michele Birth

Postby dmurphy1940 » 01 Jun 2015, 16:37

#114 for a translation please. I believe the marriage record is his also?

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,348570602

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,348570602
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Postby dmurphy1940 » 03 Jun 2015, 15:23

Any help with the translation is very appreciated.
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Re: Martone, Angelo Michele Birth

Postby AngelaGrace56 » 03 Jun 2015, 20:32

Birth Record: Angelo Michele Martone
Recorded: 4 November 1869, 11 am, Frigento
Giuseppe Martone, son of Angelo Michele, 30, contadino, living in Frigento reported the birth and presented a male baby born today, 6 am, to his wife Tommasina Cipriano, daughter of Marciano. Angelo Michele Martone was born at his home in Contrada Corno.


Marriage Details: Angelo Michele Martone and Carolina Moccia
Groom: Angelo Michele, son of Giuseppe and of Tommasina Cipriano, contadino, born in Frigento on 4 November 1869 Index 114.

Bride: Carolina Moccia, daughter of the late Carmine and Maddalena Famiglietti, contadina, born in Frigento on 5 June 1868, Index 80.



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Re: Martone, Angelo Michele Birth

Postby AngelaGrace56 » 03 Jun 2015, 21:10

Hi Dolores

I wasn't exactly sure of the spelling of "Moccia" so I have located the actual Marriage Act. Here it is with the translation below:

Index No 17: Angelo Michele and Carolina Moccia:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... 1067099068

29 September 1900, 10.05 am, Frigento
Angelo Michele Martone, 31, born and living Frigento, son of Giuseppe, residing Frigento and Tommasina Cipriano, residing Frigento.

Carolina Moccia, 32, contadina, born and living Frigento, daughter of the late Carmine who lived in Frigento when alive, and daughter of Maddalena Famiglietti, residing in Frigento.

The banns were posted on 2 and 9 September. The bride and groom didn't sign because they were both illiterate.

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Re: Martone, Angelo Michele Birth

Postby AngelaGrace56 » 03 Jun 2015, 21:22

BTW: Here's a related thread:
Martone/Cipriano Marriage: http://www.italiangenealogy.com/forum/l ... na#p220765

Angelo must have been married before? Unfortunately it doesn't mention marital status on Angelo and Carolina's Marriage Act. I'll have a look shortly and see if I can find their banns quickly.
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Re: Martone, Angelo Michele Birth

Postby dmurphy1940 » 03 Jun 2015, 21:42

This really helps, Angela, thank you! (I have him marrying Maria Cipriano on 3 February 1894)
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Re: Martone, Angelo Michele Birth

Postby AngelaGrace56 » 03 Jun 2015, 22:57

So here are the marriage banns (Index 19) for this couple and right at the bottom it refers to the Death Act of Maria Cipriano, wife of Angelo Michele Martone. So he was married before.

Banns for Martone/Moccia: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... :106140516

Dolores, the delight with your marriage banns is that there is some allegati either amongst the actual banns (like you see on the opposite page to this record) or at the end of the relevant year. It would be worth your while at some stage going through these. I'll see if I can see any allegati for this couple at the end of these records for 1900.

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Postby dmurphy1940 » 03 Jun 2015, 23:25

I'll go through whatever you send, Angela...........:) Thank you so much!
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Re: Martone, Angelo Michele Birth

Postby AngelaGrace56 » 03 Jun 2015, 23:47

Hi Dolores
There is no allegati there for this couple that I can see amongst the film that I am currently looking at. I need to take a break now. Will post later if I see anything else of relevance. Enjoy your day.
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Re: Martone, Angelo Michele Birth

Postby dmurphy1940 » 03 Jun 2015, 23:57

Thank you for ALL of your help, Angela, and have a good evening.

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Re: Martone, Angelo Michele Birth

Postby AngelaGrace56 » 04 Jun 2015, 05:57

Happy to help, Dolores :D

Here's Maria Cipriano's death record. She died about two months before Angelo's marriage to Carolina Moccia.

Death Record No 41: Maria Cipriano
Recorded: 3 August 1900, 8.25 am. Frigento
Sabino Cipriano, 47, contadino and Rocco Ciampi, 36, contadino, both living in Frigento declared that at 3.20 a.m. today at a house in Contrada Fontana Levara, No 12, Maria Cipriano died. She was 32, contadina, born and living in Frigento, daughter of the late Vito and the late Concetta Cocchiola, who both lived in Frigento when alive. Maria Cipriano was the wife of Angelo Michele Martone.
Witnesses: Carmine Cipriano, 35, contadino and Alfonso Pelosi, 41, possidente.
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Re: Martone, Angelo Michele Birth

Postby dmurphy1940 » 04 Jun 2015, 15:25

wow, 2 months! Thank you, Angela.
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Re: Martone, Angelo Michele Birth

Postby AngelaGrace56 » 04 Jun 2015, 21:45

dmurphy1940 wrote:wow, 2 months! Thank you, Angela.


You are very welcome Dolores. Yes, this also surprised me, recently, when I came across two of my lineage back in the mid 1800s, who remarried within two to four months of their first wives dying. I am wondering whether this occurred more in the case of a widower remarrying quickly (possibly because there were children that needed caring for, and he needed to work etc?) and maybe not so often in the case of a widow remarrying? Not sure.

Interesting is, that I grew up with the impression that it was a bit of a “no no” to remarry after a spouse had died and it certainly would have been shunned upon if a widow remarried within a year or two. There was a custom that, mostly women adherred to, (it had a name and I can't remember what it was called right now – I need to find out): basically what happened was that the women of a deceased relative had to wear black for a specific period to show that she was mourning and to show respect for the deceased loved one etc. I remember mum and I visiting a relative in a another country once and we met an Italian woman there who was dressed completely in black from top to toe. Her husband had died when she was in her early twenties and she had been following this custom of mourning and showing her respect for her husband for twenty years!!!! :o :o :o :shock: :shock: :shock: :?

Well, on that note, I better go do some chores.
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Postby dmurphy1940 » 04 Jun 2015, 22:27

I have not run across any children yet for Angelo Michele and Maria but I think it is only a matter of time. He most likely was left with small children to care for. That happened to my grandfather. After my grandmother died he sent for a bride in Italy, she was somehow related to our family so they scooped her up and she came to the US to take care of my father and his siblings.

My mother always wore black for one year if anyone in the family died.

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Re: Martone, Angelo Michele Birth

Postby AngelaGrace56 » 05 Jun 2015, 22:51

dmurphy1940 wrote:I have not run across any children yet for Angelo Michele and Maria but I think it is only a matter of time. He most likely was left with small children to care for. That happened to my grandfather. After my grandmother died he sent for a bride in Italy, she was somehow related to our family so they scooped her up and she came to the US to take care of my father and his siblings.

My mother always wore black for one year if anyone in the family died.

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Interesting about your grandfather "importing" a bride after your grandmother died. I have heard of this before but not in the town I grew up in. I guess she would have been chaperoned on her journey to the US by a family member or other.

I think mum wore black for about a year after a family member died, also. Like most other immigrants, she had stopped doing this by the mid 1990's - only wore black to funerals and a short while after.

Have a "happy June" Dolores. What does this mean exactly? Is there something special you celebrate in June?
Angela :D


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