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Help with marriage record.

Postby tomtst » 19 Jul 2015, 18:13

This appears to be the marriage of Giovanni Mongiello and Dominica Blasi? but the name I am more interested in is Teresa Benevento. What is her connection to this record? I think she (or another Teresa Benevento) is my connection to a DNA match but I have never been able to find a record that shows her parents. I only know she existed because of her husbands death record. Any information about her in this record would be helpful.

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Re: Help with marriage record.

Postby Tessa78 » 19 Jul 2015, 19:58

Teresa Benevenuto is age 48 and a peasant farmer, who is the wife of Nicola Mongiello, 63, peasant farmer. They are the parents of the groom, Giovanni Mongiello, age 26.

There is no other information about Teresa in this record that I can see other than that she resides with her husband at Strada Malfetani.

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Re: Help with marriage record.

Postby tomtst » 19 Jul 2015, 23:21

My Teresa was married to Saverio Sullo but he died young and I could never find the death record for Teresa. If she remarried would her death record still be under her maiden name or would it be under Sullo or Mongiello? Her age puts her about 10 years younger than her first husband so it may be a different Teresa.

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Re: Help with marriage record.

Postby Tessa78 » 19 Jul 2015, 23:33

Teresa would be registered by her maiden name in the death acts.
The death act would identify her husband (living or dead) at the time.
It may, or may not, identify earlier spouses.

Can we help in your search?
Where and when was she born?

Can you post the image of or a link to her husband's death act?

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Re: Help with marriage record.

Postby tomtst » 20 Jul 2015, 00:22

Saverio Sullo (1777 - 1819) married Teresa Benevento their children were
Faustina, Emanuele, Nicola, Vincenzo, Giovanna.
They were from Montemarano Italy.
Faustina died in 1858 and Teresa died sometime prior to that.
Giovanna died in 1820 and Teresa was alive.
Teresa was born and married prior to the microfilm records. In all the records I have it shows Teresa living in Montemarano.

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Re: Help with marriage record.

Postby Tessa78 » 20 Jul 2015, 01:41

Hello Tom,
Thanks for providing the link to your documents. That really helps to get the big picture.

Am I understanding this correctly...
Do you believe that Teresa Benevenuto was married BEFORE her marriage to Saverio Sullo?
The Teresa in the above marriage of Giovanni Mongiello would have bee born about 1866, and according to your other documents, Saverio Sullo was born about 1877. Is this where you got the estimate of her being about 10 years older than Saverio, because I do not see mention of Teresa's age in any of the other documents? Did I miss it?

Approximate timeline:
~1767 - birth of Teresa Benevenuto (from what records?)
~ 1777 - birth of Saverio Sullo (from his death record)
~1788 - birth of Giovanni Mongiello (from marriage record)
~1802 - birth of Faustina (from death record)
~ 1805/6 - birth of Emanuele (from her marriage and death records)
~1810 - birth of Nicola (from birth and marriage records)
~1818/9 - birth of Giovanna (from death record)
1819 - death of Saverio Sullo (from death record)
Between 1835 and 1858 - death of Teresa Benevenuto (from Emanuele marriage and Faustina death records)

Have you tried writing directly to the Comune of Montemarano to request Teresa's death record?

Ufficio dello Stato Civile
Piazza del Popolo, 1
83040 Montemarano (AV)
ITALY

Help with letters of request in Italian...
Be sure to give as much information as you can about Teresa, and include a photo ID and your email address.
http://www.angelfire.com/ok3/pearlsofwi ... tter3.html
http://www.angelfire.com/ok3/pearlsofwi ... talrecords

You can also write a letter of request to the parish priest to ask of this death act.
You might want to offer a donation...

T.

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Re: Help with marriage record.

Postby tomtst » 20 Jul 2015, 12:53

As far as I know Saverio Sullo was Teresa's only husband. I was only trying to think of why I can't find her death record. I thought if she remarried her death record might be under a different name. I have searched the records between those two dates and have come up empty. All I need are her parents names. I emailed Montemarano at one time for another record with no response I will try writing.

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Re: Help with marriage record.

Postby Tessa78 » 20 Jul 2015, 16:11

A marriage record would exist (prior to 1802) in church books. I would definitely try to request the marriage from the local parish.

Montemarano was the seat of a Roman Catholic Diocese between the years of 1059-1818.

http://www.thecatholicdirectory.com/dir ... ontemarano

There is always the possibility that Teresa died prior to 1835, but she was not identified as such in the 1834 and 1835 records...
Another thought is to look for possible allegati (attachments) to the marriage records of her children (working backward from the last one married) to see if the allegati includes the death act of Teresa. It would definitely include the death act of Saverio, which you already have.

T.

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Re: Help with marriage record.

Postby tomtst » 21 Jul 2015, 04:14

Thank You T. yes I think I will write the church and see if they respond.
I ran across a site that helps with a form letter and automatically translates into Italian. Hopefully it does not destroy the translation too much.

http://www.circolocalabrese.org/genealo ... ecords.asp

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