Can anyone make out the mother's name?

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Can anyone make out the mother's name?

Postby sandyman720 » 29 Sep 2015, 19:50

Hi All-

I have attached 3 copies of the birth of Pellegrina Dell'Anno from 1822. The father is Nicola but I cannot make out a mother's name.

Any ideas? If there are any other facts on there that would help me please feel free to let me know!

Thanks!

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Pellegrina Dell'Anno 3.JPG
Pellegrina Dell'Anno 2.JPG

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Re: Can anyone make out the mother's name?

Postby erudita74 » 29 Sep 2015, 20:48

Her first name is Gaetana. It would help to know what town this record is from to decipher her surname.
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Postby AngelaGrace56 » 29 Sep 2015, 20:55

I agree with Gaetana being the first name. I've also been trying to work out the name of the town. Also, if you have an index or two saved that would be helpful.

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Re: Can anyone make out the mother's name?

Postby erudita74 » 30 Sep 2015, 01:05

In looking at the name of the parish in the record-S. Felicessimo, there is a parish with the name of S. Felicissimo in Forino, which is now in Avellino Province. If that is the town name in this record, then possibly the mother's surname is a form of the surname Discepolo.

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Postby AngelaGrace56 » 30 Sep 2015, 01:27

Hi Erudita
I'm with you on the town being Forino. That's what it looks like to me in these images. I don't know what the surname is. I know it ends in what looks like "olo", not so sure about the other letters at the minute. Off on a coastal hike in a minute :D :D :D so will look again later.
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Postby sandyman720 » 30 Sep 2015, 23:03

Sorry just saw that you all replied. Thank you.

Yes the town is Forino. I do not have the index copied.

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Postby erudita74 » 01 Oct 2015, 01:17

Glad Angela and I have the correct town. I'm still having trouble though with the mother's surname. Maybe Angela is having better luck???
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Postby AngelaGrace56 » 01 Oct 2015, 02:36

erudita74 wrote: Maybe Angela is having better luck???
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No, I'm not, I admit to, somewhat sheepishly. I fail to observe any consistency in the way that the clerk, who has written the record, has formed his letters. It would be so helpful if there was uniformity to them. To me the first letter looks like it might be an "O" rather than a "D", going by the way it is slanted - or maybe not. Oh well. Another mystery for us! I'll keep coming back to it.
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Postby Tessa78 » 01 Oct 2015, 15:28

I am reading Orciuolo. :-)

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Re: Can anyone make out the mother's name?

Postby sandyman720 » 01 Oct 2015, 16:07

Can anyone make out the age of the father Nicola?

What does it say about Nicola's hometown? Also what are the other words along with the mother's name?

Thank you all!

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Re: Can anyone make out the mother's name?

Postby AngelaGrace56 » 01 Oct 2015, 20:52

sandyman720 wrote:Can anyone make out the age of the father Nicola?

What does it say about Nicola's hometown? Also what are the other words along with the mother's name?

Thank you all!


Nicola was 36. It just says that he was living in Forino, nothing else. It doesn't give his place of birth that I can see. After Gaetana's name, all I can read at the minute, is that she was his legitimate wife.

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Re: Can anyone make out the mother's name?

Postby erudita74 » 01 Oct 2015, 21:02

next line after his legitimate wife-

da esso dichiarante.. (then I don't know, but at the end of the next line is the beginning of the word domiciliata and then the next line is the rest of that word followed by "in detto comune d'anni trenta"

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Re: Can anyone make out the mother's name?

Postby erudita74 » 02 Oct 2015, 14:33

I think before the word "domiciliata" is the feminine form of the same word which appears for the father's occupation. It looks to me like the word campagnolo, but I see a u in it like in the Spanish spelling campagnuolo. That would translate to peasant or countryman, if that is what the word is.

The handwriting is very spread out, which is just as bad as it being compressed together.

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Postby AngelaGrace56 » 02 Oct 2015, 21:39

erudita74 wrote:I think before the word "domiciliata" is the feminine form of the same word which appears for the father's occupation. It looks to me like the word campagnolo, but I see a u in it like in the Spanish spelling campagnuolo. That would translate to peasant or countryman, if that is what the word is.

The handwriting is very spread out, which is just as bad as it being compressed together.

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Great catch Erudita! I believe you are correct. Possibly the spelling "campagnuolo" is dialect spelling. It seems a lot of the Southern dialects have Spanish influence? Hopefully with more research, the poster will find other children born to this couple, the records will be clearer, and the mother's surname will be confirmed. Have a lovely day Erudita.
Angela :D

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Re: Can anyone make out the mother's name?

Postby erudita74 » 02 Oct 2015, 23:40

I don't know about the word being dialect but possibly so. I agree, Angela, that another record with the same parents will need to be found to confirm everything, including the mother's surname. I think T's suggestion though is a good one.

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