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Domencia chiarello Locating death help

Postby stokkster1 » 29 Oct 2015, 00:52

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,353367601

So we have discussed the Marinotto aspect to this marriage, but I am now courious as to the Death of Garrasi'a first wife, I am pulling my hair out trying to find the death record, I see it says Feb 24, but I have looked in the 1875, 76, and 77 deaths and found nothing, can someone tell me if it says she died somewhere other then San Giuseppe Jato. PLEASEEEE :D

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Re: Domencia chiarello Locating death help

Postby carubia » 29 Oct 2015, 02:08

It says that the Palermo civil records office issued a copy of her death cert on 24 Feb (1877). So you know she died before then, but not how much earlier. However, she probably died in the city of Palermo; at the very least they have the record.

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Postby stokkster1 » 30 Oct 2015, 03:03

carubia wrote:It says that the Palermo civil records office issued a copy of her death cert on 24 Feb (1877). So you know she died before then, but not how much earlier. However, she probably died in the city of Palermo; at the very least they have the record.


I have looked through the Palermo records for 1875, 76, and 77 and have not found her, I know she had a son who died in Jan 1 1875 and Emammuele remarried in Mar 1877 so The time frame is small. Any Idea's where I should look next.

Thank you so much for all your help

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Re: Domencia chiarello Locating death help

Postby carubia » 30 Oct 2015, 03:10

When was the son who died on 1 Jan 1875 born? Does his death record whether his mother was alive or not?

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Postby stokkster1 » 30 Oct 2015, 03:52

carubia wrote:When was the son who died on 1 Jan 1875 born? Does his death record whether his mother was alive or not?


Son was born in 1872 and died 1875 mother & father alive. Im going crazy trying to find her :x

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Re: Domencia chiarello Locating death help

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stokkster1 wrote:
carubia wrote:When was the son who died on 1 Jan 1875 born? Does his death record whether his mother was alive or not?


Son was born in 1872 and died 1875 mother & father alive. Im going crazy trying to find her :x


https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,954438101

This is their Pub of marriage does it add to anything about her mother?

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Postby carubia » 30 Oct 2015, 04:38

No. The Palermo civil records office issued another copy of her death cert on 23 Nov 1881. Since we already know she died before 24 Feb 1877, this doesn't add anything, although it does reinforce it.

The death record for her son from 1875 might have been in error as to whether she was alive. Do you have any other records that mention her between 1872 and 1875?

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Re: Domencia chiarello Locating death help

Postby stokkster1 » 30 Oct 2015, 17:43

carubia wrote:No. The Palermo civil records office issued another copy of her death cert on 23 Nov 1881. Since we already know she died before 24 Feb 1877, this doesn't add anything, although it does reinforce it.

The death record for her son from 1875 might have been in error as to whether she was alive. Do you have any other records that mention her between 1872 and 1875?


I have attached a copy of the last childs birth record, I can't read it all but maybe their is a clue to when his mother died. also was he born in Palermo or san Giuseppe?

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,353331102

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Re: Domencia chiarello Locating death help

Postby liviomoreno » 30 Oct 2015, 18:18

Niccolò Garrasi
born 1872 April 6, 4pm in San Giuseppe Jato
Father: Emmanuele Garrasi aged 37
Mother: Domenica Chiarello aged 23

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Re: Domencia chiarello Locating death help

Postby stokkster1 » 31 Oct 2015, 17:49

liviomoreno wrote:Niccolò Garrasi
born 1872 April 6, 4pm in San Giuseppe Jato
Father: Emmanuele Garrasi aged 37
Mother: Domenica Chiarello aged 23


I want to thank you for helping me with this, still no success in locating Domenica's death record so i am going back through all the records I have hoping something will explain what happened to her, I have check every year from 1872-1877 in Palermo for a death record no luck

I have another childs birth in 1870 if maybe you could take a peak see if it says anything, like where she may have been from or how old she was in this one?

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,353331102

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Re: Domencia chiarello Locating death help

Postby liviomoreno » 31 Oct 2015, 17:59

Domenica's age is not given in Nicolò's birth.
I doubt that you can find a clue about her death on any birth record of her children...


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