Ieffa, Luigi Birth #103

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Ieffa, Luigi Birth #103

Postby dmurphy1940 » 27 Jan 2016, 17:03

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Re: Ieffa, Luigi Birth #103

Postby Tessa78 » 27 Jan 2016, 22:28

#103
Dated 21 September 1874
Birth on the 19th @ 5 AM
Father: Giuseppe Ieffa, son of deceased Luigi, age 32
Mother: Mariangiola Capabianco, daughter of deceased Michele, age 26
Both were peasant farmers residing in Frigento at Via San Giovanni where the birth took place. Child was given the name LUIGI
Witnesses to the record: Angelo Michele Cancelliere, son of unknown father, age 50; and Giuseppe Famiglietti, son of deceased Gennaro, age 32; both peasant farmers residing in Frigento

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Re: Ieffa, Luigi Birth #103

Postby dmurphy1940 » 28 Jan 2016, 02:02

Thank you, Tessa.
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Re: Ieffa, Luigi Birth #103

Postby erudita74 » 28 Jan 2016, 04:27

Dolores
Luigi was born from the natural union of Giuseppe and Mariangiola. His parents were not married at the time of his birth. If you look at this record and compare it to the ones preceding and following it, you will see that Mariangiola is not listed as Giuseppe's wife but rather that it says that the birth was from their union.

Here is a link to their marriage record.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=2043434

Their marriage did not take place until Aug 30, 1875 at 9:25 a.m. in Frigento. The record also legitimized the two children they had had from their natural union. She was 32 and a peasant in Frigento at the time of the marriage. She was the daughter of deceased Michele Capobianco and dec Lucia di Rienzo. He was age 35 and also a peasant living in Frigento. He was the son of deceased Luigi Ieffa and Carmina Capobianco. The couple requested that they be united in matrimony and that the 2 children born from their natural union be recognized. The first was born on Nov 29, 1867, record #116. He was named Michele Arcangelo. The second was born on Sept 21, 1874 and that would be the Luigi whose record you posted. Images 2747 and 2748, record #8, in case the link I provided doesn't work.

This is the link to birth record of the first son, Michele Arcangelo, no. 116, top left. In the record, Giuseppe reported that the son was born from an unmarried woman, age 23. She was not named in this record.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... cc=2043434

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Re: Ieffa, Luigi Birth #103

Postby dmurphy1940 » 28 Jan 2016, 15:16

Thank you SO much, Erudita!
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Re: Ieffa, Luigi Birth #103

Postby erudita74 » 28 Jan 2016, 15:36

You're very very welcome, Dolores. So happy I noticed the difference in wording in Luigi's birth record.
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Re: Ieffa, Luigi Birth #103

Postby dmurphy1940 » 28 Jan 2016, 16:14

Do you mean CapObianco??
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Re: Ieffa, Luigi Birth #103

Postby erudita74 » 28 Jan 2016, 18:32

dmurphy1940 wrote:Do you mean CapObianco??


Yes, T spelled it incorrectly in her translation. It is Capobianco.

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Re: Ieffa, Luigi Birth #103

Postby dmurphy1940 » 28 Jan 2016, 18:56

Thank you.
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Re: Ieffa, Luigi Birth #103

Postby Tessa78 » 28 Jan 2016, 19:53

erudita74 wrote:
dmurphy1940 wrote:Do you mean CapObianco??


Yes, T spelled it incorrectly in her translation. It is Capobianco.

Erudita


Thanks for catching that typo, Erudita! :-)

Just a quick clarification as to the marriage. It should be noted that the wording you see in this record is also found in births to couples who have been married in the church, but not in a civil record. They might not have been married in the "eyes of the government" but MAY have been married in the "eyes of the church." :-D
Naming both parents in a civil record when there existed no marriage at all would be quite unusual. Don't you agree?

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Re: Ieffa, Luigi Birth #103

Postby dmurphy1940 » 28 Jan 2016, 22:38

Thank you both. It took a little while but I think I have this ieffa family all straightened out now! :)
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