Arturo MARCHETTI Birth Certificate

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Arturo MARCHETTI Birth Certificate

Postby glomms » 10 Jul 2016, 08:18

Please translate my Great Uncle Arturo MARCHETTI's Birth Certificate into english. Many Thanks.
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Re: Arturo MARCHETTI Birth Certificate

Postby AngelaGrace56 » 10 Jul 2016, 10:14

No 198: Arturo Marchetti of Corrado
Altopascio: 29 November 1885, 10.25 am
Emilio Marchetti, 41 yo, property owner, living in Marginone, reported that at 5.15 pm, on 25 of the current month, at a house in Marginone, Giuseppa Marchetti, wife of Corrado Marchetti, 34 yo, both coloni possidenti (landowners settlers) living in Marginone, gave birth to a male baby who was not presented to me, and was given the name Arturo Giovanni.

There is a note at the bottom of the record to the effect that the registrant declared the birth because Giuseppa “Montanelli's” husband was away from the town. Note also that Giuseppa's surname, which has been underlined in the body of the record, and has a sign before it, is incorrect, and has been corrected at the bottom of the record, where you will see the same sign. So corrected from "Marchetti" to "Montanelli".

Re the occupation: "coloni possidenti":
Possidenti are landowners, whereas coloni are tenant farmers, so I'm a little perplexed by the occupation as noted “coloni possidenti”. I shall see what I can find out about this.

Angela

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Re: Arturo MARCHETTI Birth Certificate

Postby glomms » 10 Jul 2016, 18:33

Thank you Angela! I do know that Giuseppa's surname is MONTANELLI, so that makes sense to me. But this is the first time I've noticed Giuseppa spelled like that. I've only seen it as Guiseppa in the past. Also, they were farmers here in the US. Thank you for sharing your talent.

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Re: Arturo MARCHETTI Birth Certificate

Postby AngelaGrace56 » 10 Jul 2016, 21:29

glomms wrote:Thank you Angela! I do know that Giuseppa's surname is MONTANELLI, so that makes sense to me. But this is the first time I've noticed Giuseppa spelled like that. I've only seen it as Guiseppa in the past. Also, they were farmers here in the US. Thank you for sharing your talent.


Happy to help! The correct spelling is definitely "Giuseppa" or "Giuseppe" (for a male). It is very common to see these names mispelt.

Re the occupation: "coloni possidenti": I've only come across this once before in a record (ie both these words used together for an occupation), and have done a little search, and my thinking is that they must have been (large-ish) landowners who farmed their own land.

Angela:-0

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Re: Arturo MARCHETTI Birth Certificate

Postby erudita74 » 11 Jul 2016, 05:21

explanation of "coloni possidenti"

Those (tenant farmers), who through the fruit of their own industriousness (hard work) and savings, came to acquire lands that they then preferred to have others work, and they abandoned the small farms in which they had made their fortune

https://books.google.com/books?id=BwU_w ... ti&f=false

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Re: Arturo MARCHETTI Birth Certificate

Postby AngelaGrace56 » 11 Jul 2016, 05:43

Thank you, Erudita. Yes, I'd wondered about that. That was what I thought initially, because I have witnessed this in some of my own records. I just couldn't find proof though, clearly set out, from any of the literature I pulled up. Great link, thank you.

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Re: Arturo MARCHETTI Birth Certificate

Postby erudita74 » 11 Jul 2016, 11:47

Hi Angela
I've never had this occupation appear in my own records, but have seen plenty of references to it. This is the only link which I have found, however, which provides an explanation.
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Re: Arturo MARCHETTI Birth Certificate

Postby AngelaGrace56 » 13 Jul 2016, 02:38

erudita74 wrote:Hi Angela
I've never had this occupation appear in my own records, but have seen plenty of references to it. This is the only link which I have found, however, which provides an explanation.
Erudita


It's a great link and explains it well - especially with your wonderful translation. I've added it to my very edited list of occupations. Thank you once again.

Angela:-0

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Re: Arturo MARCHETTI Birth Certificate

Postby erudita74 » 13 Jul 2016, 03:12

Your welcome Angela. Typing on a kindle and not very well. Sorry


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