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Translation assistance

Postby andieh69 » 18 Jul 2016, 03:09

Hello Italian Friends,

I am looking for someone who can assist me in writing a letter to the state archives of palermo in response to a letter that I received from Comando Militare Autonomo Sicilia Centro Documentale di Palermo. I wrote the comando requesting my grandfather's WW1 Italian military records using a computer generated document translator, but not sure how accurate it was. I believe by the response I received the Comando does not have the records and was sending the request on to someone else.

I have never received any further info from Palermo and it has been since April. I want to send a second request to the new address that the Comando references in the letter but I honestly can't tell from the letter what it is.

Here is the response from the comando:
Oggetto: Richiesta di copia del foglio matricolare relativo al Sig. Baiardo Salvatore nato ad Altavilla Milicia il 11. 08.1888

A Ministero Per I Beni E le Attivita' Culturali
Archivio Di Stato-Ufficio Richerche
Cortile Gancia, 2 90100 Palermo
e-mail: as-pa.ufficioricerche@beniculturali.it

e, per conoscenza

(my info was here)

1. Si invia, in annesso, per competenza e diretta evasione, la richiesta inoltrata a questo Ente con la lettera in riferimento.

2. Ad inegrazione, si comunica che, nella considerazione che presso gli archivi del Centro non sono stati rinvenuti atti relativi al nominato in oggetto, per qualsiasi eventuale futura esigenza, inerente alla documentazione in argomento, l'interessato dovra rivolgere la richiesta all'Archivio di Stato in indirizzo per competenza.

3. Si rimane a disposizione per ogni eventuale ed ulteriore chiarimento.

I would like to send the following letter as my second request

Dear sir or madam,

My name is....I am in search of the WW1 military records of my grandfather Salvatore Baiardo born 11.08.1888 in Altavilla Milicia to Giuseppe Baiardo and Laura DiFalco. We have been told that he was a prisoner of war held captive in Albania and his last living child (my father) would like to find out what happened to him during his time served.

I originally sent my request to the Comando back in April, they sent me a letter stating they were forwarding the request on to......I have not heard anything back and am kindly placing a second request for these records.

Thank you for your assistance in this matter,

Sincerely,

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Re: Translation assistance please

Postby andieh69 » 20 Jul 2016, 03:06

andieh69 wrote:Hello Italian Friends,

I am looking for someone who can assist me in writing a letter to the state archives of palermo in response to a letter that I received from Comando Militare Autonomo Sicilia Centro Documentale di Palermo. I wrote the comando requesting my grandfather's WW1 Italian military records using a computer generated document translator, but not sure how accurate it was. I believe by the response I received the Comando does not have the records and was sending the request on to someone else.

I have never received any further info from Palermo and it has been since April. I want to send a second request to the new address that the Comando references in the letter but I honestly can't tell from the letter what it is.

Here is the response from the comando:
Oggetto: Richiesta di copia del foglio matricolare relativo al Sig. Baiardo Salvatore nato ad Altavilla Milicia il 11. 08.1888

A Ministero Per I Beni E le Attivita' Culturali
Archivio Di Stato-Ufficio Richerche
Cortile Gancia, 2 90100 Palermo
e-mail: as-pa.ufficioricerche@beniculturali.it

e, per conoscenza

(my info was here)

1. Si invia, in annesso, per competenza e diretta evasione, la richiesta inoltrata a questo Ente con la lettera in riferimento.

2. Ad inegrazione, si comunica che, nella considerazione che presso gli archivi del Centro non sono stati rinvenuti atti relativi al nominato in oggetto, per qualsiasi eventuale futura esigenza, inerente alla documentazione in argomento, l'interessato dovra rivolgere la richiesta all'Archivio di Stato in indirizzo per competenza.

3. Si rimane a disposizione per ogni eventuale ed ulteriore chiarimento.

I would like to send the following letter as my second request

Dear sir or madam,

My name is....I am in search of the WW1 military records of my grandfather Salvatore Baiardo born 11.08.1888 in Altavilla Milicia to Giuseppe Baiardo and Laura DiFalco. We have been told that he was a prisoner of war held captive in Albania and his last living child (my father) would like to find out what happened to him during his time served.

I originally sent my request to the Comando back in April, they sent me a letter stating they were forwarding the request on to......I have not heard anything back and am kindly placing a second request for these records.

Thank you for your assistance in this matter,

Sincerely,

andieh69
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Re: Translation assistance please

Postby andieh69 » 20 Jul 2016, 03:07

andieh69 wrote:Hello Italian Friends,

I am looking for someone who can assist me in writing a letter to the state archives of palermo in response to a letter that I received from Comando Militare Autonomo Sicilia Centro Documentale di Palermo. I wrote the comando requesting my grandfather's WW1 Italian military records using a computer generated document translator, but not sure how accurate it was. I believe by the response I received the Comando does not have the records and was sending the request on to someone else.

I have never received any further info from Palermo and it has been since April. I want to send a second request to the new address that the Comando references in the letter but I honestly can't tell from the letter what it is.

Here is the response from the comando:
Oggetto: Richiesta di copia del foglio matricolare relativo al Sig. Baiardo Salvatore nato ad Altavilla Milicia il 11. 08.1888

A Ministero Per I Beni E le Attivita' Culturali
Archivio Di Stato-Ufficio Richerche
Cortile Gancia, 2 90100 Palermo
e-mail: as-pa.ufficioricerche@beniculturali.it

e, per conoscenza

(my info was here)

1. Si invia, in annesso, per competenza e diretta evasione, la richiesta inoltrata a questo Ente con la lettera in riferimento.

2. Ad inegrazione, si comunica che, nella considerazione che presso gli archivi del Centro non sono stati rinvenuti atti relativi al nominato in oggetto, per qualsiasi eventuale futura esigenza, inerente alla documentazione in argomento, l'interessato dovra rivolgere la richiesta all'Archivio di Stato in indirizzo per competenza.

3. Si rimane a disposizione per ogni eventuale ed ulteriore chiarimento.

I would like to send the following letter as my second request

Dear sir or madam,

My name is....I am in search of the WW1 military records of my grandfather Salvatore Baiardo born 11.08.1888 in Altavilla Milicia to Giuseppe Baiardo and Laura DiFalco. We have been told that he was a prisoner of war held captive in Albania and his last living child (my father) would like to find out what happened to him during his time served.

I originally sent my request to the Comando back in April, they sent me a letter stating they were forwarding the request on to......I have not heard anything back and am kindly placing a second request for these records.

Thank you for your assistance in this matter,

Sincerely,

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Re: Translation assistance

Postby kencwalker » 20 Jul 2016, 03:42

Hi andieh69,
I know enough Italian to get you into trouble.
That said, have you looked into Trafford R. Cole's book: Italian Genealogical Records: How to Use Italian Civil, Ecclesiastical & Other Records in Family History Research ?
I know he provides example letters to contact other Italian government organizations.
Maybe has something to get military records.
I'll be interested if you have any success, as my GF served in the Italian army during WWI.

You don't have to buy it. Check your library's genealogy section. If they don't have that book, others I've seen recommended include:
Finding Your Italian Roots. The Complete Guide for Americans (by John Philip Colletta)
Genealogists Guide to Discovering Your Italian Ancestors: How to Find and Record Your Unique Heritage (by Lynn Nelson)
Finding Your Italian Ancestors: A Beginner's Guide (by Suzanne Russo Adams)
Regards,
-Ken
Researching surnames Pedroncelli and Pilatti in Sondrio; Cantoia in Novara; Penna in Asti.

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Re: Translation assistance

Postby AngelaGrace56 » 21 Jul 2016, 01:24

Hi

I've been reading through this forum and my thinking is to just keep things simple. Here's a suggestion for you to send:

Gentilissima Signora, Gentile Signore,

OGGETTO: Richiesta esito di leva e dei foglie matricolari di
Salvatore Baiardo Classe di nascita 1888

La ringrazio anticipatamente di voler comunicare i costi di
spese di riproduzione e postali per ottenere l'esito di leva e dei foglie matricolari
di:

Salvatore Baiardo di Giuseppe e Laura Di Falco
nato a Altavilla Milicia, Palermo il 11 Agosto 1888

Nell'attesa della sua risposta le invio cordiali saluti.


Your name
Your address
your email address

If you are not exactly sure of the birth date then give a year range. I've used this letter before with good results. Do wait a day before sending it though in case my grammar is wrong or someone has a better idea.

If I'm understanding correctly, your Salvatore Baiardo may have been a POW? If he was, then the military record probably won't give you a lot of info about this. (It will mostly likely just have the date of capture and where.) These details are held by the International Redcross. You might like to do a search here: http://grandeguerre.icrc.org/en/File/Search

I did do a search myself for you, and scrolled down many names, but nothing came up for a Salvatore Baiardo or similar surname. I checked by given name as well, just in case.

Angela

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Re: Translation assistance

Postby andieh69 » 05 Aug 2016, 02:38

Thank you for your help. It is apppreciated

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Re: Translation assistance

Postby AngelaGrace56 » 05 Aug 2016, 09:20

You are very welcome. Best wishes in your search.
Angela:-)


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