Searching for Joseph Gruppuso's Record of Baptism

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Searching for Joseph Gruppuso's Record of Baptism

Postby sacesta » 04 Aug 2016, 11:29

In an effort to locate the record of baptism for my 5th great grandfather, Joseph Gruppuso, I found these two records.

Neither of these is the document I was looking for, but instead the record for one (or two) of Joseph's children (sibling(s) to my 4th great grandfather, Francesco Gruppuso).

I have a couple of questions about the first record.

1) Is the baptized male or female? I'm having difficulty with the riser at the end of the word that looks to be "nata" and also at the end of the name of the baptized.

2) What does the title "Magistro" signify? Was the father of the baptized a teacher?

If the first record is for a Josepha, rather than Joseph then there must have been a Josepha that died young, because the second record is also for a Josepha of the same parents born 5 years earlier.

At least now I know that by 1755 Joseph Gruppuso was old enough to be having children.

I'd be thankful for whatever illuminating information you can provide.

Steve

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Re: Searching for Joseph Gruppuso's Record of Baptism

Postby erudita74 » 04 Aug 2016, 12:16

Steve-they are both female-Giuseppa and Guiseppa Maria. I explained the word magistro which is Latin version of Italian maestro in another of your posts. Guess you didn't see it. The word can mean teacher but here it is probably a person who was master of his trade, whatever that trade was

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Re: Searching for Joseph Gruppuso's Record of Baptism

Postby sacesta » 04 Aug 2016, 12:43

Thanks Erudita! Somehow, I must have missed your comment about "magistro". Anyway, good to know. Thanks.

It seems that the earlier Josepha must have died young.
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Surnames Aceste, Papa, Cusenza, Gruppuso, Sciortino, Sparacino, Zito, and Vona.

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Surnames Infranco, La Rocca, Mandina, Bilello, Cacioppo, and Cardino.

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Re: Searching for Joseph Gruppuso's Record of Baptism

Postby erudita74 » 04 Aug 2016, 13:18

Steve
I'm on my kindle and not my computer this week. When I'm back on my computer, I'll try to find the post where I explained the word magistro. I also recall mentioning that there was no compulsory education in Italy until 1877 and, even then, many of the towns did not have schoolhouses or teachers. That's why, more than likely, magistro means master of the trade. For example, a calzolaio in a town, who was a master cobbler, might have the title maestro.
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P.S. I'm having trouble reading your other posted record on the kindle.

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Re: Searching for Joseph Gruppuso's Record of Baptism

Postby sacesta » 04 Aug 2016, 15:16

Erudita,
Sent you a PM...
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Researching Calatafimi, Trapani
Surnames Aceste, Papa, Cusenza, Gruppuso, Sciortino, Sparacino, Zito, and Vona.

Researching Montevago, Agrigento (Girgenti)
Surnames Infranco, La Rocca, Mandina, Bilello, Cacioppo, and Cardino.


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