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A photo about a man

Postby codenathan » 03 Nov 2007, 11:14

Salve sono di nuovo io. Avrei una domanda.
Sono alcuni mesi che sono alla ricerca di questo mio parente. Ho scoperto alcune cose (poche in realtà).
Vorrei trovare una sua foto. Escludo gli oggetti personali visto che pare che sia morto solo quindi impossibile, la mia domanda è: c'è un documento da poter reperire dove trovare una sua foto nonostante siano passati quasi 30 anni dalla sua morte?
E' morto e a quanto pare è sempre vissuto nello stato della pennsylvania.
Grazie come sempre a tutti
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Re: A photo about a man

Postby BillieDeKid » 03 Nov 2007, 17:19

Hello Andrea,

Lei può mostrare la fotografia? Il nome di persona? Invecchia e l'anno nato? Quando è venuto all'America? Da solo? Relativo o gli amici viene a in America? I genitori nomina? Tutte le informazioni, anche piccolo, aiuteranno delle persone a ricercare. Il mio italiano è piccolo ma tenterò.

To all on the forum. Andrea has a photograph and is trying to search for the relative in the photograph. The person was in PA. This is what I wrote back -

I asked if he/she could post the photograph? Persons name, age and year born. Did the person have relatives or friends they were coming to in america and did the person come by themselves. When did they come, parents names. Told Andrea that any information, even a little would help people to search. Last thing I said was I only speak a little italian but I would try.

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Re: A photo about a man

Postby liviomoreno » 03 Nov 2007, 19:40

I understood it the other way round. Andrea has a relative and is looking for a photograph of him...
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Re: A photo about a man

Postby BillieDeKid » 03 Nov 2007, 20:04

Thank you Livio. I'm sure you're probably right. Like I said, my Italian is limited so I appreciate you taking a look. Can you give a full translation of what Andrea said in the original post? That way maybe people on the site can search for information. Thanks again. By the way - feel free to correct the questions I asked Andrea.

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Re: A photo about a man

Postby AnotherCitizenToBe » 03 Nov 2007, 21:11

liviomoreno wrote:I understood it the other way round. Andrea has a relative and is looking for a photograph of him...


If that person naturalized in the US, the records will include a photograph...
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Re: A photo about a man

Postby peggymckee » 04 Nov 2007, 00:03

Hi all--I'm just a beginner in Italian--but here's my attempt at translating what Andrea says. There are a few bits that I couldn't get. Peggy M

Salve sono di nuovo io. Avrei una domanda.
Greetings again from me. I have a question.

Sono alcuni mesi che sono alla ricerca di questo mio parente.
For some months now I am on the search for my relatives.

Ho scoperto alcune cose (poche in realtà).
I have uncovered a few things (little in reality).

Vorrei trovare una sua foto.
I would like to find one (of) his photos.

Escludo gli oggetti personali visto che pare che sia morto solo quindi impossibile,
[This phrase doesn’t make sense to me!]

la mia domanda è:
my question is:

c'è un documento da poter reperire dove trovare una sua foto nonostante siano passati quasi 30 anni dalla sua morte?

Is there a document [capable of being reproduced? of which I might get a copy?] from which to find his photo although nearly 30 years have passed since his death?

E' morto e a quanto pare è sempre vissuto nello stato della pennsylvania.
He died and seems always to have lived in the state of Pennsylvania.

Grazie come sempre a tutti
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Re: A photo about a man

Postby liviomoreno » 04 Nov 2007, 09:02

The translation done by peggymckee is rather accurate. I have made some slight corrections:

Greetings again from me. I have a question.
For some months now I am on the search for this relative of mine.
I have uncovered a few things (little in reality).
I would like to find one (of) his photos. The photo cannot be found in his personal belongings because I believe he died all alone.
My question is:
Is it possible to find a document holding his photo although nearly 30 years have passed since his death?
He died and seems always to have lived in the state of Pennsylvania.
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Re: A photo about a man

Postby AnotherCitizenToBe » 04 Nov 2007, 09:32

AnotherCitizenToBe wrote:
liviomoreno wrote:I understood it the other way round. Andrea has a relative and is looking for a photograph of him...


If that person naturalized in the US, the records will include a photograph...


Come to think of it, if he attended high school in Pennsylvania (and if the origianl poster knows what town/city he lived in), yearbook photos would be a good possibility.
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Re: A photo about a man

Postby codenathan » 04 Nov 2007, 13:14

Hi, thanks for the translation. He was a WW1 soldier and he naturalized on 1920
I've asked it to the Philadelphia Archives. Here the answer:
"....
We searched the naturalization records from 1906 -1926
for the Middle and Eastern Districts of Pennsylvania for Giuseppe
Ercolani. His naturalization was found in the Eastern District in 1920.
To receive copies of the naturalization, please send us a check
for $10.00 made out to NATFB and they will be mailed to you.
Thank you for your request..."

Now I've asked how to send money but they didn't answer till now. This email arrived after one or two days but I'm waiting to know the payment methods from two weeks.
Is there anybody could help me? How could I send money from Italy to the Philadelphia archives?
Thanks for your help and excuse me for my english
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Re: A photo about a man

Postby vj » 04 Nov 2007, 14:52

Andrea,
This may be the document that the
Philadelphia Archives has.
It doesn't appear to match the WWI Card
that suanj found for you on your other post.

Not sure if there is more to this file.
click here Naturalization paperwork pg 1
pg 2
pg 3
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Re: A photo about a man

Postby peggymckee » 04 Nov 2007, 20:30

codenathan wrote:His naturalization was found in the Eastern District in 1920....
How could I send money from Italy to the Philadelphia archives?

1. My GF's naturalization papers from 1923 do not have a photo--I think this practice started later. If it were me, I would get the papers anyway.
2. To send money to Philly from Italy--use credit card.

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Re: A photo about a man

Postby codenathan » 04 Nov 2007, 22:27

Thanks to everybody.
Credit card well I have it but they didn't answer me till now and I don't know to do...I hope they'll answer me soon.

Another question: is it possible to have a copy of his identification card? Is there an archive that has it?

Thanks again
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Re: A photo about a man

Postby codenathan » 05 Nov 2007, 08:12

vj wrote:Andrea,
This may be the document that the
Philadelphia Archives has.
It doesn't appear to match the WWI Card
that suanj found for you on your other post.

Not sure if there is more to this file.
click here Naturalization paperwork pg 1
pg 2
pg 3



I can't read on the first page the part about children. There are two dates but I don't understand the words wrote first. What do they mean?

Thanks

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Re: A photo about a man

Postby misbris » 05 Nov 2007, 15:27

He was not married. There is nothing listed under children. I believe the words are "entered 4/29/18," "discharged 6/11/19." These must be his dates in the army. Not sure of the 6, could be a 5 or an 8. But maybe you can access the military records since you have those dates now. There might be a picture attached

Do you have census information about him?

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Re: A photo about a man

Postby codenathan » 05 Nov 2007, 15:43

Thanks for your help.
Yes I do, I've found census informations about 1920 and 1930.
Thanks again

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