Mazzilli (Mazzillo) and Amato family in Bari Italy

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Mazzilli (Mazzillo) and Amato family in Bari Italy

Postby lujak215 » 20 Jul 2009, 01:38

Looking for ancesters from Bari Italy. Mazzilli (o) and/or Amato (i) families.
I do know some names that my grandmother used to mention. Filipi, Allesandro, Michael, Donata.

Potenza, Basillicata, are some names I remember also. I know I am missing something else.

Please e-mail me at lujak215@comcast.net

Mary

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Re: Mazzilli (Mazzillo) and Amato family in Bari Italy

Postby PeterTimber » 20 Jul 2009, 12:36

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Re: Mazzilli (Mazzillo) and Amato family in Bari Italy

Postby vj » 20 Jul 2009, 12:51

Hello Mary!
I was looking at some of your older posts on the genforum board.
Not sure how many US records you've found for your family.
If this record belongs to your aunt, it may help identify your family's town of origin in Italy.
Does this ship manifest look correct?
Thanks!
Valarie

from ancestry. com
(click here) possible 1929 ship manifest
page 2

7 Oct 1929, SS Roma, Naples to NY
line 22
Giovanna (probably Jennie) Amati 12 (born abt 1917)
- born, and last residence Miglionico (probably province of Matera, region Basilicata)
- leaving uncle Alessandro Amati in edit: added Rapone (probably province of Potenza, region Basilicata)
- destination Bristol (Bucks County) PA
- joining mother Luigina at 1904 Trenton Ave, Bristol
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Mazzilli/o Family

same address as 1929 manifest, names are off a bit

from ancestry. com
possible 1930 census

Home in 1930:
1904 Trenton Ave, owns $3000
Bristol, Bucks, Pennsylvania

head Philip Mazzi 30, abt 1900 IT
- 1st marriage age 25, abt 1925
- immig 1905, Al
- worker (?), chemical (?) works
wife Regena Mazzi 34, abt 1896 IT
-1st marriage age 25, abt 1921
- immig 1920 Pa
son Daniel Mazzi 7, abt 1923 PA
step-daughter Jennie Amati 13, abt 1917 IT
- immig 1929, Al

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Re: Mazzilli (Mazzillo) and Amato family in Bari Italy

Postby lujak215 » 20 Jul 2009, 21:19

Our address was 1902 Trenton Ave, Bristol PA

I do have an Aunt Jennie. I did have an Uncle Danny KIA WW2.
My grandmothers name was Louise (Luigina). My mother was born in 1931 in USA, her fathers name was Phillip.

Oh My God! I'm soooooo excited.....so far so good!!!!

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Re: Mazzilli (Mazzillo) and Amato family in Bari Italy

Postby vj » 20 Jul 2009, 21:49

Hello Mary :D ,
We'd be happy to look for more records:

Do you know your grandfather Philip's (Filippo) parent's names.

Did Philip have any brothers or sisters that came to the US?
Do you know his brother's or sister's names?

Also, was Philip born about 1900 or earlier?

Thanks! Valarie

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Re: Mazzilli (Mazzillo) and Amato family in Bari Italy

Postby lujak215 » 20 Jul 2009, 22:00

I am having a hard time trying to find the ship etc...any good ideas for me?

I just reverified all that you sent to me with my mother...you've found the correct family!!!!

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Re: Mazzilli (Mazzillo) and Amato family in Bari Italy

Postby vj » 20 Jul 2009, 22:13

lujak215 wrote:I am having a hard time trying to find the ship etc...any good ideas for me?


If your family arrived in NY before 1925, many of our members use this search site:
http://stevemorse.org/ellis2/ellisgold.html
You may have to search using 'partial' and 'sounds like' name searches, names on manifests could be mistranscribed
Also, women generally traveled under their maiden names

Valarie

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Re: Mazzilli (Mazzillo) and Amato family in Bari Italy

Postby vj » 20 Jul 2009, 23:21

Mary,
Here are some names that your mother may recognize
Possibly her father Philip's (Filippo) brother Raffaele?
Raffaele's 1st son is Donato (Dan), 1st daughter Mary.
If he followed traditional Italian naming patterns, these would be Raffaele's & possibly Philip's parents' names.
If your mother recognizes this family it may help in the search for your grandfather's manifest, etc
Valarie


Raffaele Mazzilli family, Gravina in Puglia & Brooklyn
some of the names are tough to make out, census transcription is from ancestry. com

possible 1930 census
next page

Home in 1930:
205 Snediker Ave, owns $8500
Brooklyn, Kings, New York

head Ralph Mazzilo 49, abt 1881 IT
- married age 25, abt 1906
- immig 1900, Al
- (occupation) piano
wife Saffey Mazzilo 39, abt 1891 IT
- immig 1902, Al
daughter Merry Mazzilo 22, abt 1908 NY
son Dan Mazzilo 21, abt 1909 NY
son Nunzio Mazzilo 20, abt 1910 NY
- piano
son Hartha Mazzio 17, abt 1913 NY
daughter Minne Mazzio 16, abt 1914 NY
son Fred Mazzio 15, abt 1915 NY
son Albert Mazzio 13, abt 1917 NY
son Gaho Mazzio 12, abt 1918 NY
daughter Bella Mazzio 8, abt 1922 NY
daughter Fannie Mazzio 5 8/12, abt 1924 NY
son Jahue Mazzio 4 7/12, abt 1925 NY
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Raffaele's 2nd trip

1912 ship manifest
page 2

26 Sep 1912, SS Olympic, Southampton to NY
line 2

Raffaele Mazzillo 32 (born abt 1880)
- married
- non immigrant alien
- last residence New York
- in Gravina (probably Gravina in Puglia, province of Bari, region Puglia), wife Rosina Musto
- destination New York
- in NY 1905-1910
- joining father-in-law Nunzio Musto at 223 East 103rd (or 108th)
- born in Gravina

Raffaele's wife and children

1912 ship manifest
page 2

20 Nov 1912, SS San Giorgio, Naples to NY
lines 25-28

Refina Musto 21 (abt 1891)
- last residence Gravina
- in Gravina, uncle Francesco De Siante
- destination NY
- in NY 1903-1911
- joining husband Raffaele Mazzilli at 217 E 106th Street NY
- born in Gravina (children born in NY)
daughter Maria Mazzilli 5
son Donato 4
son Nunzio 3
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Raffaele's probable marriage record:

Mazzilli Raffaele Oct 28 1906 Manhattan 26647
Musto Serapino Oct 28 1906 Manhattan 26647
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If you haven’t used these, they may help you locate New York City records:

Dr Steve Morse One Step Search Pages for New York
NY Naturalization
NYC Birth Records 1891-1902 (requires ancestry. com subscription)
NYC Groom Index 1864-1936
NYC Bride Index ????-1937
NYC Death Records 1891-1948

Ordering NYC Vital Records
New York City Archives

from NYC records by the Italian Genealogical Group
http://www.italiangen.org/
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Raffaele's 1st trip?

possible 1905 ship manifest
special inquiry page

20 May 1905, SS Italia, Naples to NY
line 18

Raffaele Mazzilli 25 (abt 1880)
- single
- last residence Gravina P (probably Gravina in Puglia, province of Bari, region Puglia)
- destination NY
- joining cousin Palma Procino(?)

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Re: Mazzilli (Mazzillo) and Amato family in Bari Italy

Postby lujak215 » 21 Jul 2009, 14:28

I do not know his parents name, however:

my mother recalls Nunzio, Sophie, Bella, Minnie, etc

possible Northern nj and New York

Lee Mazzilli (mets) his father talked to my mom a few yrs ago by phone, he did remember her

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Postby vj » 21 Jul 2009, 15:16

lujak215 wrote:I do not know his parents name, however:

my mother recalls Nunzio, Sophie, Bella, Minnie, etc

possible Northern nj and New York

Lee Mazzilli (mets) his father talked to my mom a few yrs ago by phone, he did remember her

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Hi Mary,
Raffaele Mazzilli's family in 1920
Names are again tough to decipher

Best guess, Raffaele is your grandfather Philip's brother
His children would be your mother's 1st cousins (including Libero, Lee Mazzilli's father)?
Valarie

1920 census
page 2

Home in 1920:
721 Myrtle Ave
Brooklyn Assembly District 4, Kings, New York

head Paphos (Raphael) Marsee (Massela) 38, abt 1882 IT
- immig 1905, Al
wife Sophie Marsee 28, abt 1892 IT
daughter Mary Marsee 12 9/12, abt 1907 NY
son Daniel Marsee 11 8/12, abt 1908 NY
son Ammzie (Nunzio) Marsee 9 4/12, abt 1910 NY
son Edward Marsee 8 1/12, abt 1911 NY
daughter Minnie Marsee 5 1/12, abt 1914 NY
son Faber (Fred) Marsee 4, abt 1916 NY
son Albert Marsela 3 1/12, abt 1917 NY
son Lebran (Libero) Marsela 3/12, abt 1919 NY
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Note: son 'Lebran' on the 1920 census, 'Gaho' on the 1930 census, may be Libero Mazzilli (1919-2007) who was ballplayer Lee Mazzilli's father.

This quote from a 2003 article in the Baltimore Sun about Lee Mazzilli may be referring to Libero and Libero's father Raffaele.
Raffaele Mazzilli was in the piano business on the 1930 census.

Mazzilli's grandfather had immigrated from Bari, Italy, and worked in the piano business, a trade he passed on to his son, Libero, who was a piano tuner and a professional welterweight.

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Re: Mazzilli (Mazzillo) and Amato family in Bari Italy

Postby lujak215 » 22 Jul 2009, 00:42

You are goood!!!!!

I know my mom said someone owned a piano store.

So, we are on the right track with the right family....whew!!!!

Can't wait for more!

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Re: Mazzilli (Mazzillo) and Amato family in Bari Italy

Postby lujak215 » 25 Jul 2009, 19:56

Finding out more: Mazzilli's chicken store. My mother remembers her one of her uncles name as Sam. There were twins in the family, a few sets I believe. Two hairdressers, etc.
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Re: Mazzilli (Mazzillo) and Amato family in Bari Italy

Postby lujak215 » 01 Aug 2009, 18:41

to continue with the rest of my family.

Would also like to see my grandmothers side. She would be Luigina Amato (i) listed above. I do know she once told me her mother's name was Donna and her fathers name was Michael. Her brother was also listed above as Alessandro Amato and I believe he was an electrician??

Thank you

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Re: Mazzilli (Mazzillo) and Amato family in Bari Italy

Postby vj » 02 Aug 2009, 14:30

lujak215 wrote:...Would also like to see my grandmothers side. She would be Luigina Amato (i) listed above...


from footnote.com (subscription)
Naturalization documents

1925 Declaration

Publication Number: M1522
Publication Title: Naturalization Petitions for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania, 1795-1930
Publisher: NARA
State: Pennsylvania
Court: US Circuit Court
Year: 1925
Date: 23 Nov 1925
Immigrant Full Name: Luigina Mazzelo
Document Type: Declaration of Intention
Home Country: Italy
Witness 1 Full Name: [Blank]
Witness 2 Full Name: [Blank]
Year Immigrated: 1921

Notes:
Luigina Amoto Mazzello
31 years old
born in Grottole Prov Potenza 17 Jun 1894
address 320 Lincoln Ave Bristol Penna
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1928 Petition

Publication Number: M1522
Publication Title: Naturalization Petitions for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania, 1795-1930
Publisher: NARA
State: Pennsylvania
Court: US Circuit Court
Year: 1928
Date: 27 Mar 1928
Immigrant Full Name: Luigina Mazzelo
Document Type: Petition for Naturalization
Home Country: Italy
Witness 1 Full Name: Guido Mazzanti
Witness 2 Full Name: Epifanio Lucenti
Year Immigrated: 1921

Notes:
Luigina Mazzillo
1904 Trenton Avenue, Bristol, Penna
born: 17 Jun 1894 in Grottola (Grottole, Province of Matera, Region Basilicata)
emigrated: 14-28 May 1921 Naples to Phila, ship Caserta
husband: Filippo born 10 May 1882
2 children:
Donato born 4 Jun 1922 in PA, lives in Bristol
Giovanna born 15 Jan 1917 in IT, lives in IT
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1928 Oath

Publication Number: M1522
Publication Title: Naturalization Petitions for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania, 1795-1930
Publisher: NARA
State: Pennsylvania
Court: US Circuit Court
Year: 1928
Date: 29 Jun 1928
Immigrant Full Name: Luigina Mazzelo
Document Type: Oath of Allegiance
Home Country: Italy
Year Immigrated: 1921

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Re: Mazzilli (Mazzillo) and Amato family in Bari Italy

Postby vj » 02 Aug 2009, 14:52

Ship manifest (from info on naturalization papers)

1921 ship manifest
page 2

29 May 1921, SS Caserta, Naples to Philadelphia
line 26
Luigia Amati 28
- single
- dress m (maker)
- born in Grottole
- in Grottole, father Michele
- destination Bristol PA
- joining cousin Lorenzo Maggio at 329 Lincoln Ave
- born in Grottole


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