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Castagna, Italy

Postby cvwalters » 24 Aug 2010, 00:04

I am wondering if any one knows if Castagna, Italy is/was an actual place in the Calabria region. It is the location of my great grandather's birth. I believe it may be or have been in the Province of Catanzaro. Anytime I have tried to research it I have come up empty.

I don't know much about my ggf side of the family, so as always any help is appreciated!

Thanks!

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Re: Castagna, Italy

Postby misbris » 24 Aug 2010, 00:11

If you are sure of Calabria, this is probably the place.

Castagna, comune of Carlopoli - province: Catanzaro - region: Calabria


Here is some info.

http://en.comuni-italiani.it/079/020/index.html

If you want to post name, dates and other info we can probably be of more help. :lol:
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Re: Castagna, Italy

Postby cvwalters » 24 Aug 2010, 00:37

Thank you!

I am sure it is Calabria. All of his records show him being born in Castagna. His draft registration for WWI lists Castagna, Catanzaro.

Here is my ggf info.

Santo Graziano
b. 11.1.1888 in Castagna, Italy
a. 4.17.1903, NYC, settled in Utica, NY
m. Maria Coriale in Utica, NY 1909
d. 7.12.1958

His parents were Francesco Graziano and Maria Sacco. I know nothing about them. According to family folklure, Santo's parents died when is was young, possibly in a fire.

He has at least two sisters. One I have info on is Maria Carmella. She too settled in Italy.
b. 11.29.1876
a. 1902
m. Fillipo Defazio in Castagna italy.

The other sister may have lived in Rochester, NY. I now her married name is Oliver.

The only other info I have is Santo traveled with a cousin named Raffalle Graziano.

I will tell you I have Census records and manifest for Santo.

Any other information that you might be able to help with would be greatly appreciated. I am hoping to be able to trace this branch of the family tree as far as possible.

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Re: Castagna, Italy

Postby misbris » 24 Aug 2010, 01:34

I am having trouble finding Santo's manifest. Can you post it or give me the Ship's info?
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Re: Castagna, Italy

Postby Tessa78 » 24 Aug 2010, 02:21

Hi mj :-)

Here's the manifest...Santo and Raffaele on lines 27 and 28

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/4788 ... nifest.jpg

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Re: Castagna, Italy

Postby cvwalters » 24 Aug 2010, 02:36

Sorry Mj I just saw your post about the manifest. I will confirm that is the correct manifest for Santo. Thanks Tessa!

Here is Carmella's (Santo's sister's) manifest. She is last on the page.

http://a.imageshack.us/img228/8585/carmella.jpg[/IMG]
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Re: Castagna, Italy

Postby cvwalters » 24 Aug 2010, 02:37

The previous link doesn't work. Try this one. Sorry!!!!

http://img228.imageshack.us/i/carmella.jpg/

Thanks for all the help!!!! Always appreciated!
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Re: Castagna, Italy

Postby douglasmariano01 » 24 Aug 2010, 02:39

Hi Ch ristine,
why don't you write to Castagna to have more info your Grandfather?
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Re: Castagna, Italy

Postby Tessa78 » 24 Aug 2010, 02:42

Hi Christine :-)

Didn't see the 1920 Census on your Family Tree posted on Ancestry...so here it is. Santo is listed as Sam, and the Coriale's are listed as Careall..

1920 United States Federal Census
about Sam Graziano
Name: Sam Graziano
Home in 1920: Utica Ward 8, Oneida, New York
Age: 31
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Spouse's name: Mary
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Name: Victoria
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of Immigration: 1902
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Sam Graziano 31
Mary Graziano 27
Victoria Graziano 6
Rose Graziano 4
[4 11/12]
Frank Graziano 0
[2/12]
Tony Careall 62
Victoria Careall 58

http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/4848 ... no1920.jpg

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Re: Castagna, Italy

Postby Tessa78 » 24 Aug 2010, 02:44

Here is the address to write to Castagna as Douglas suggested :-)

Ufficio dello Stato Civile
Via G. Matteotti, 1
64030 Castel Castagna (TE)
ITALY

To help you write your letter in Italian...
http://circolocalabrese.org/resources/l ... civile.asp

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Re: Castagna, Italy

Postby misbris » 24 Aug 2010, 03:16

Couldn't find the manifest on Ellis Island because the names are really mangled. If for any reason you need to access from Ellis Island Santo's name is spelled GRAFIANO and Raffaele's is GRAZIDNO.

A couple of interesting things that you may have already noted. There is a 15 year age difference between the brothers and Raffaele was going to a cousin and Santo to his brother in law.( they lived next door to each other.)
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Re: Castagna, Italy

Postby suanj » 24 Aug 2010, 05:08

I believe that Graziano brothers coming from Castagna, hamlet of Carlopoli town, Catanzaro province
http://maps.google.it/maps?hl=it&rlz=1R ... CBoQ8gEwAA


The Grazianos joining at Filippo Di Fazio brother in law http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0027


First Name: Filippo
Last Name: Di Fazio
Ethnicity: Italian
Last Place of Residence: Castagna
Date of Arrival: Apr 13, 1901
Age at Arrival: 24y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Citta di Torino
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0004


the right name is Castagna ( no Castagne or Castagni)
I am very positive abt Castagna hamlet of Carlopoli town in Catanzaro province...
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Re: Castagna, Italy

Postby oilman19 » 24 Aug 2010, 09:22

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Re: Castagna, Italy

Postby cvwalters » 25 Aug 2010, 00:06

Wow! Thanks everyone!

So I didn't realize that Rafalle was his brother and not his cousin. For some reason, probably because I saw the word "cousin" and they weren't going to the same house I didn't make the connection.

So know that you all have connected the dots for me! As I understand it, Santo or Sam's parents died in a fire when he was young. So my theory is Rafalle must have gone back to get Santo to bring him back his siblings. Also I believe Rafalle went to Canada later on.

Jim - I do Santo's obit. The Fulton website is a favorited of mine. I have gotten a lot of good information from it. Thank you as wall.

Thanks to everyone for all your help and pointing out the Graziano's are brothers!

Christine
Tessa - I do have the 1920 Census, it must connected to my tree. Like you said, it was hard to find. Thank you for the address and the info to send a letter to Castagna.
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Re: Castagna, Italy

Postby jmeegen » 30 Jan 2011, 02:21

Hi Christine!
I am originally from Utica, and my mother's parents were born in Castagna! Their names were Cardamone & Sacco.
I am also sending you a message via private message. I am in touch with some castagnesi (past and present) via email and Facebook, and know someone who is researching the Graziano and Sacco families too. There were several Graziano families, also Sacco families but I have researched my Saccos into the 1700s and most Saccos in Castagna descend from one landowning family.
Yes, Castagna is a hamlet (or frazione) in the comune of Carlopoli, Catanzaro province, in Calabria, Italy. It is in the Sila Piccola mountains. It used to be an independent comune but lost its independent status around 1868? due to an increase in brigandage.
Anyway, we are probably distant cousins! Several people have been researching on Castagna, so you might not have to reinvent the wheel!
All best,
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