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Montefalcone Italy / Formato Family

Postby bellaboo » 10 Jan 2011, 17:11

Hope someone can help me, I have been searching for over 2 years and now have reached a dead end because of conflicting records. I am researching Joseph Formato appr. birth around 1878 in Naples or Benevento Montefalcone area.
He was a tailor and had a brother named Louis. He married a D'Alessio and I was told they were neighbors. I have written to Comune Di Montefalcone Di Val Fortore and they did reply in Italian to say they regret to find nothing in their files. Ive been on Ancestry and Ellis Island sites and neither were helpful. He lived in Manhattan, NY but later moved to Chicago according to various census records. I am hoping to solve the puzzle and find the missing pieces. There are no living relatives or any records kept by them to help me. His daughter, Mary, age 92, passed away last year and no notes or records were found.

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Re: Montefalcone Italy / Formato Family

Postby vj » 10 Jan 2011, 18:12

Welcome to the Forum!
Is this the correct record?
To confirm his place of birth, have you found his ship manifest or naturalization paperwork?
(1920 census indicates this Joseph filed his 1st papers)
Thanks, Valarie

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Name: Joseph Formato
Death Date: 29 Dec 1947
Death Place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Gender: Male
Age: 70
Birth Date: 23 Jul 1877
Birthplace: Napoli, Italy
Father: Louis Formato
Father's Birth Place: Naples, Italy
Mother: Mary Dialessio
Mother's Birth Place: Naples, Italy
Occupation: tailor
Residence: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Spouse: Mary
Burial Date: 31 Dec 1947
Burial Place: Proviso, Cook, Illinois
Cemetery: Mt. Carmel
Digital Folder Number: 4005431
Image Number: 1353
Film Number: 1991699
Volume/Page/Certificate Number: cn 38736
Collection: Illinois, Deaths and Stillbirths, 1916-1947

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Re: Montefalcone Italy / Formato Family

Postby Tessa78 » 10 Jan 2011, 18:24

Hello and welcome! :-)

Is that your Family Tree for Joseph Formatto/Consolata D'Alessio on Ancestry?

For reference...

1900 United States Federal Census
about Joseph Formata
Name: Joseph Formata
[Joseph Formato]
Home in 1900: Manhattan, New York, New York
[New York, New York]
Age: 24
Birth Date: May 1876
Birthplace: Italy
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1898
Relationship to head-of-house: Brother-in-Law
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Marriage Year: 1899
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 1
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Agostino Delessio 31
Casparo Delessio 13
Joseph Formata 24
Cousalata Formata 20

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Re: Montefalcone Italy / Formato Family

Postby vj » 10 Jan 2011, 18:33

Hey T :D !

Also from FamilySearch Beta
Son's birth record

Name: Villie Formato
Birth Date: 13 Sep 1912
Birthplace:
Gender: Male
Race: White
Father's Name: Guiseppe Formato
Father's Birthplace: Montefalcone, Italy
Father's Age: 36
Mother's Name: Consolata Dalesio
Mother's Birthplace: Montefalcone, Italy
Mother's Age: 36

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Re: Montefalcone Italy / Formato Family

Postby Tessa78 » 10 Jan 2011, 18:38

Hey Valarie ! :-D

Nice birth record find...

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Re: Montefalcone Italy / Formato Family

Postby vj » 10 Jan 2011, 18:41

Thanks T
Since Joseph probably gave the information, you would think that Montefalcone Di Val Fortore would have his birth record. Unless, as he stated on his WWII Card, he really didn't know when he was born?
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Re: Montefalcone Italy / Formato Family

Postby Tessa78 » 10 Jan 2011, 18:43

vj wrote:Thanks T
Since Joseph probably gave the information, you would think that Montefalcone Di Val Fortore would have his birth record. Unless, as he stated on his WWII Card, he really didn't know when he was born?
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I agree! :-)

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Re: Montefalcone Italy / Formato Family

Postby Tessa78 » 10 Jan 2011, 18:52

Valarie,

I found the 1930 Census for Consolata/Concetta and kids in Chicago. No Joseph.
She's listed as "widow"... take a look. Maybe it's a different Formato family?

Or maybe the WWII card is the wrong Joseph?

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8401 ... hicago.jpg

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Re: Montefalcone Italy / Formato Family

Postby vj » 10 Jan 2011, 19:09

Tessa78 wrote:Valarie,

I found the 1930 Census for Consolata/Concetta and kids in Chicago. No Joseph.
She's listed as "widow"... take a look. Maybe it's a different Formato family?

Or maybe the WWII card is the wrong Joseph?

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8401 ... hicago.jpg

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Hey T!
You're right :D it's the same family in 1920 and 1930 - good catch
I'm guessing the 1937 death record and 1942 WWII Draft Registration Card are for someone else?
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Re: Montefalcone Italy / Formato Family

Postby Tessa78 » 10 Jan 2011, 19:14

WWI Registration Card

Place of birth "Italy"
Listed as a "non-declared" Alien

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/3188/formatowwi.jpg

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Re: Montefalcone Italy / Formato Family

Postby Tessa78 » 10 Jan 2011, 19:36

Found a manifest for Agostino D'Alessio, Giuseppe's brother-in-law, with whom he and Consolata were living on the 1900 Census above.

Going to wife and kids in NYC
Last place of residence: Montefalcone Val di Fotore, Italy

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/930/ ... nifest.jpg

That means that Consolata D'Alessio (Formato) was probably also from there. Maybe a new letter to the comune can produce a marriage record (according to the census was in 1899) which will indicate Giuseppe's place of birth... UNLESS they were married in US :-(

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Re: Montefalcone Italy / Formato Family

Postby vj » 10 Jan 2011, 19:42

Hey T :D !
Neat record!
No luck finding marriage record in NY
1900 census, in US 2 yrs, married 1 yr...
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Re: Montefalcone Italy / Formato Family

Postby Tessa78 » 10 Jan 2011, 19:51

vj wrote:Hey T :D !
Neat record!
No luck finding marriage record in NY
1900 census, in US 2 yrs, married 1 yr...
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Hi Valarie :-D

Yes, I noticed that! I searched as well...no luck :-(

Do we have a manifest for Giuseppe?

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Re: Montefalcone Italy / Formato Family

Postby vj » 10 Jan 2011, 19:55

Tessa78 wrote:Hi Valarie :-D

Yes, I noticed that! I searched as well...no luck :-(

Do we have a manifest for Giuseppe?

T.



Hey T
Still looking for both of them
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Re: Montefalcone Italy / Formato Family

Postby bellaboo » 10 Jan 2011, 21:08

Thanks to all who are trying to help. Joseph (my grandfather) married Consolata D'Alessio also and they had 5 children Carlo Michele (Charles) born Nov. 1900 in NY, Ann(Anne)
Leonard, William (My Father) and Mary (92 yrs old and last living sibling.
I saw the same records that have found but no manifest either.
In later census reports, it shows Consolata as head of household.
On the death certificate for Joseph it states his mothers name as Mary., his mother couldn't be his wife. Maybe he didn't understand the question.
Consolata relates to the virgin Mary, maybe they called her Mary for short.
his death certificate is very confusing. I do appreciate all your help.


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