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Birth or Baptismal records from Palermo, Sicily in 1841

Postby sfwilm » 09 Feb 2012, 17:33

I am wanting to request a birth certificate from Palermo. Is there a website or address to write to? My gg grandfather was Pietro Lipari (American spelling Peter Lepre) born Jan 21, 1841. His father was Joseph Pepe Lipari and mother was Mary Petri.

The scandalous family story is that at the age of 12 he assaulted a local Priest and the police was looking for him. With the aid of the Sicilian Mafia he was hidden on a boat and arrived in America alone.

I would like obtain his birth certificate, Baptismal certificate, newspaper articles, etc. I've hit a dead end and have been stuck not being able to go any further back on my tree. Any help at all would be Greatly appreciated! I'm not sure if there is a specific central place that holds records in or near Palermo around 1841.
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Re: Birth or Baptismal records from Palermo, Sicily in 1841

Postby adelfio » 10 Feb 2012, 05:33

Palermo is a province,comune,city there are seziones in the city which have separate sections of there civil records
I looked on some POSSIBLE marriage records for Palermo it came up on the search
Palermo, Matrimoni in Italia, 1820-1895 Palermo, Italy, Marriages, 1820-1895
Name:Giuseppe Lipari
Spouse:Gias Pitre
Marriage Date:18 gen 1839 (18 Jan 1839)
Marriage Place:Molo, Palermo
Father Name:Pietro Lipari
Mother Name:Calcedonia Isidoro
Volume:198
Number:13
Pietro Lipari was most likely born in Molo where they where married.
So looks like they got married in the section of the Palermo called Molo.
Could go to Family History Library for the film records of Molo Palermo
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Birth films(Nati) from Molo from FHL
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Marriage films of SEZIONE MOLO Matrimoni
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Re: Birth or Baptismal records from Palermo, Sicily in 1841

Postby sfwilm » 15 Feb 2012, 18:25

Marty, thank you so much for your help. I went to my local Family Research Library last week but was only able to stay less than one hour. I plan to go back on Friday and hopefully be able to get more information. They did tell me at our local office that they had several films from Palermo already so I just need to go through them at some point. It's all still new to me so I'm a little slower at this but hope to pick up my pace as I go along. I think you were on to something with the names you had given me I just need to try to confirm that it is indeed his parents and birthplace.
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Re: Birth or Baptismal records from Palermo, Sicily in 1841

Postby adelfio » 16 Feb 2012, 02:31

Here is the other side of that marriage of Giuseppe Lipari to Giuesppa Pitre her family info
Name Giuseppa Pitre
Spouse Giuseppe Lipari
Marriage Date:18 gen 1839 (18 Jan 1839)
Marriage Place: Molo, Palermo
Father Name: Gaetano Pitre
Mother Name: Orazia Minafa
1839 v. 198 n. 0013

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Re: Birth or Baptismal records from Palermo, Sicily in 1841

Postby sfwilm » 20 Feb 2012, 16:34

Thanks so much Marty! I do believe that this is the correct family that I've been search for. If I were to order the film on line would the film give me the actual copy of the record or would it be just the index with the same info that you've provided? I just don't want to order the film and it only give an index with the same info that you've given me. Is there a way for me to know?
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Re: Birth or Baptismal records from Palermo, Sicily in 1841

Postby adelfio » 20 Feb 2012, 16:58

From Family History Library film
Palermo SEZIONE MOLO Matrimoni
Matrimoni 1838-1840
FHL INTL Film #1455678
Giuseppe Lipari
Marriage Date:18 gen 1839 (18 Jan 1839)
1839 v. 198 n. 0013
If you need more Palermo sezione Molo records just look through films go to the bottom of the page to find more records there are 1624 film notes and use the next film notes prompt
click on prompt for records
https://www.familysearch.org/eng/librar ... Palermo+++

Italian Marriage records translation to English click on and keep clicking to enlarge
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Re: Birth or Baptismal records from Palermo, Sicily in 1841

Postby adelfio » 20 Feb 2012, 21:31

Molo Palermo marriage records
Father Name: Gaetano Pitre
Mother Name: Grazia Minafa

More family
Rosalia Pitre daughter of Gaetano Pitre and Grazia Minafa
Spouse Mario Soiorta
Marriage Molo,Palermo 22 sept 1837
1837 v. 171 n. 0113

Girolama Pitre daughter of Gaetano Pitre and Grazia Minafa
Spouse Antonio Rizzno
Marriage Molo,Palermo 17 may 1852
1852 v. 329 n. 0071

Maria Pitre daughter of Gaetano Pitre and Grazia Minafa
Spouse Antonio Cannizzaro
Marriage Molo,Palermo 3 jan 1849
1849 v. 302 n. 0015

Francesco Pitre son of Gaetano Pitre and Grazia Minafa
Spouse:M Caminita
Marriage Date:12 apr 1861
Marriage Molo,Palermo
1861 v.420 n 80

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Re: Birth or Baptismal records from Palermo, Sicily in 1841

Postby sfwilm » 27 Apr 2012, 18:39

I'm ready to order film from Family History Library:
Palermo SEZIONE MOLO Matrimoni
Matrimoni 1838-1840
FHL INTL Film #1455678
Giuseppe Lipari
Marriage Date:18 gen 1839 (18 Jan 1839)
1839 v. 198 n. 0013

I want to make sure that this is a record and not an Index. How do I know if it is indeed a record that I'm ordering? I want a copy of the actual marriage record.
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Re: Birth or Baptismal records from Palermo, Sicily in 1841

Postby adelfio » 27 Apr 2012, 19:53

sfwilm wrote:I'm ready to order film from Family History Library:
Palermo SEZIONE MOLO Matrimoni
Matrimoni 1838-1840
FHL INTL Film #1455678
Giuseppe Lipari
Marriage Date:18 gen 1839 (18 Jan 1839)
1839 v. 198 n. 0013

I want to make sure that this is a record and not an Index. How do I know if it is indeed a record that I'm ordering? I want a copy of the actual marriage record.


This is the film for the marriage Palermo SEZIONE MOLO Matrimoni
Matrimoni 1838-1840 there are usually indexes in the records to help usually in the back of the year you are searching

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