Hello All! <BR>
<BR>Would appreciate assistance with obtaining the names of churches in Ripacandida and Muro Lucano. I am looking for my ancestral parish. If someone could explain the procedure, I would be very happy to search myself. Thanks!
Thats the whole idea in this site. we merely direct you and you conduct the research. No waiting and quick responses. Go to www.paginebianche.it and insert parrocchia or parrocchie in the first line and the town in the third line and click cerca. Peter
the villages you are interested in do not appear to have any churches listed since they are probably closed and serviced by adjoining towns. If there is something specific you are looking for then please advise so that you can overcome this barrier. when you furnish sufficient information. Peter
Thank you for your prompt reply Peter!
<BR>I am taking an Italian genealogy class and we\'re going step by step to building a base of locations and addresses so we can send away for certain documents. One of the \'assignments\' was to locate the name and address of my comune\'s parish. Of course, I had no idea that the churches in those areas were closed, but I thought it strange that I couldn\'t find ANYTHING. I can only assume that at some point we\'re going to write to the parish and request birth, death, baptismal, etc. records...does this sound correct? And if the parish is closed, wouldn\'t the records have been transferred to another \'branch\' in the province? I understand that churches in Italy haven\'t been too accommodating regarding requests. <BR>
<BR>I also have been doing my own research (running in circles mostly!) and wouldn\'t the Certificato di Stato de Famiglia obtained from the Ufficio di Anagrafe or the Stato di Famiglia Originario obtained from the Ufficio di Stato Civile be the FIRST place to start?
<BR>I\'m already having a hard time pinpointing where in Italy my grandparents were born, so I\'m using the information I have as to the location of the family for now. I\'ve got several letters of request out there - Railroad Retirement Board, SS-5, Immigration, so I have made some progress. Now I\'m just getting my info in order to prepare for the next step. <BR>
<BR>Any thoughts? <BR>
<BR>donna <IMG SRC="images/forum/icons/icon_confused.gif">
There may very well be churches in these towns but they are villages and sometime fall thru the crascks and you have to double check thru the church website and then hunt down the Bishops for those towns. Civil records in Southern Italy go bacxk to 1803 and in northern Italy they don\'t start until 1863. You have to talk about records and in the same breath year(s). Civil records are located here in the USA in the Mormon Family History Library and provided you can read Italian 19th century handwriting and peer thru a magnifying glass you can locate all the information or you can go thru the Ufficio di Stato Civile (Anagrafe too..census stuff) in thje comune in italian and there are form letters on file for you to copy and send along with self addressed envelope and $5.00 for \"stamps \"since the service is free and if they don\'t (normally they don\'t) steal the money you will get a reply in about 6-8 weeks. Writing to the people in the town with the same last name is my favorite way of uncovering relatives and anecdotal information that documents don\'t cover. You can use the same www.paginebianche.it site for the surname in the first line..etc etc and then write to them (if there are any) in italian or very simple english (engklish is second language and school kids can read it) and ask them if they are related. Peter
RULE NO#1......never overlook the obvious. Do you understand and read Italian?... I must assume you do since the site is in Italian and has your answers. go to www.tiscali.it and insert Parrocchie Muro lucano and then the next time around Parrocchie and the other town. The first site will give you pictures and addresses for Muro Lucano church. If you send a letter ask him how much of a donation is involved ($15.00 US) is mormon church recommendation. But in any event you don\';t say whsat you are looking for so it might be academic. Peter
<BR>We\'ve spoken before...I\'m researching Albino in Ripacandida and Chieppa in Muro Lucano. Using the Italian White Pages, I\'ve located a few Albino\'s in the area, and even fewer Chieppa\'s. My question to you is: Are the people of Italy very receptive to receiving inquiries from Americans researching their \'roots?\' When I saw the map with how many Albino\'s were in Italy, I was shocked! They\'re everywhere! If I were to write to them, it would probably be best to stick to the area that my ancestors came from...correct? <BR>
<BR>OK...now for the hard part. Unfortunately, I speak no Italian and therefore would have a difficult time writing a simple form letter. You stated that most of the children speak English as a second language. Just so that I understand what a \'simple\' letter would be, it would go something like this:
Ooops...sent the unfinished message by mistake! Anyway, the letter would go something like:
<BR>I live in the United States and am looking for relatives of my grandfather, John Doe, born January 1, 1901, son of Mary Doe. John\'s sisters were Anna Doe(who married Bob Smith) and Marie Doe (who married Tom Jones) John immigrated to the US in 1913 and his mother Mary immigrated to the US in 1915 after her husband died.
<BR>If you are related to those listed here or know of someone who is, please respond. I have enclosed a self-addressed envelope for your reply.
<BR>Thank you very much,
<BR>How does that sound? I tried to include as much information as I thought would help without being overwhelming. And let\'s suppose I get a response in Italian!!!! Can I get help translating?
<BR>Your thoughts are appreciated!
<BR>Donna <IMG SRC="images/forum/icons/icon24.gif">
Stick only to the town and go no further. However if a leter reaches someone in the town who knows your family or knows of your family then they will be very receptive. The same letter should be written and sent to each person with a self addressed envelope and a dollar inside for stamps and should read Dear _____. my name is, I live in the USA. My fathers name is. My Mothers name is. My father was born in the town in (year). My mother was born in the town year. They were married in the town . My grandfather had two brothers. My Uncles were called salvatore and francesco. Youi get the idea..simple short sentences and to the point. Peter
Perfect! Now I get it. <BR>
<BR>Peter, I\'ve noticed that quite a few of your replies are always the same. Perhaps this site needs a \'HOW TO\' category so the repetitive questions and answers could be addressed there! (Not that your personal attention isn\'t greatly appreciated!)
<BR>Also, my mom and I are planning a trip to Italy the first two weeks in August of next year. We\'ve never been there and we\'re both very excited about it. Hopefully we\'ll get a chance to visit our ancestral village. Any tips?
There are sites including this one with information but people who are highly motivates such as yourself will take the time. Most people are not comfortable with implementing what they read, especially if some of the sites are in a foreign language. For information on the towns you can go to www.comuni.it and www tiscali.it and you can request roadmaps tailored to the town at mapquest and perhaps at the comuni site you may fiund that sometowns have their own website. Try comuni.it first and then tiscali.it, You may also wish to try www.pronto.it and www.itwg.com/home.asp if they are tourist spots.You will enjoy the trip because you will be home. Peter