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now i have to look in france aswell

Postby tenby » 02 Aug 2008, 16:59

i have been a member on this site for a while now as i have been searching for my italian ggrandfather on my fathers side so i now have decided to look into my mothers side got back as far as my gggrandfather only to discover he was born in france is there a site as helpful as this one for france, only the town i have for him doesnt seem to exsist

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Re: now i have to look in france aswell

Postby Sirena » 02 Aug 2008, 20:12

Which town do you have for him?
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Re: now i have to look in france aswell

Postby PeterTimber » 02 Aug 2008, 20:33

Birth marriage and death certificate. in france, no fee as of 1/16/04 (?)

Write to Office of the mayor (La Maire) of the place in which the event occurred. Include the following information Full name at birth,date and place of birth, fathers name mother's full name at time of the childs birth including her maiden name. =Peter=
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Re: now i have to look in france aswell

Postby tenby » 03 Aug 2008, 07:28

the town i have on the 1881 english census is as follows

Thos. PERRY Household
Male

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Other Information:
Birth Year <1835>
Birthplace Decashill (B S), France
Age 46
Occupation Sheet Iron Shearer
Marital Status M <Married>
Head of Household Thos. PERRY
Relation Head
Disability

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Source Information:
Dwelling 14 Poplar St
Census Place Harborne, Stafford, England

i ve tried looking for decashill but i think its a spelling mistake as i cant find it

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Re: now i have to look in france aswell

Postby vj » 03 Aug 2008, 12:45

Hey Lynne

Just for reference
1881 census image

Other possible census records:

1851 Sedgley, Staffordshire
1861 Tipton, Staffordshire
1871 Smethwick, Harborne, Worcestershire
1891 Smethwick, Harborne, Staffordshire
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Possible marriage record:
The original record may include Thomas Perry’s birth location

From FamilySearchLabs

Groom name: Thomas Perry
Groom birth date:
Groom age: 23
Bride name: Caroline Skeldon
Bride birth date:
Bride age: 19
Residence: Sedgley, Staffordshire, England
Event place: Sedgley, Staffford, England
Event date: 1858
Father of groom name: Richard Perry
Mother of groom name:
Father of bride name: Benjamin Skeldon
Mother of bride name:
Groom prev wife name note:
Groom previous wife name:
Bride previous husband name note:
Bride previous husband name:
UDE batch number: M16763-3
Date range: 1858 - 1873
Record group: England-VR
Film number: 1040793
Collection: England Marriages 1700-1900

Also,
From ancestry.com

Name: Caroline Skeldon
Year of Registration: 1858
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Dudley (To 1912)
County: Staffordshire, Worcestershire
Volume: 6c Page: 103

Name: Thomas Perry
Year of Registration: 1858
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Dudley (To 1912)
County: Staffordshire, Worcestershire
Volume: 6c Page: 103

About England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
This database is a searchable, digitized version of the indices of civil registrations in England and Wales, reported quarterly to the General Register Office (GRO) in London. This index spans the years between 1837 and 1983. Approximately 50% of the names between 1837 and 1900 have been transcribed thus far. You need the information found in an original index to request a copy of a marriage certificate for the individual referenced.

"On 1 July 1837 a civil registration system for births, marriages and deaths was introduced in England and Wales. Registration was undertaken by civil registrars who reported to the Registrar General at the General Register Office (GRO) in London, now part of the Office for National Statistics (ONS). Copies of anyone's birth, marriage or death certificates can be obtained by the public. They are vital to family historians because of the genealogical information that they include." (Mark D. Herber, Ancestral Trails, Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 1998)

Since the original birth, marriage and death registers are not open to the public, getting access to the information on one of these certificates is done by first searching the national birth, marriage and death indexes, that have been created by the GRO for this purpose. The indexes for the three events are each divided into quarterly volumes, with the names for each quarter listed alphabetically. Once an entry in one of the indexes is found, you are then able to use that information to order of copy of a death, marriage or birth certificate from the GRO/ONS.

Note: Names were entered into the volume of the quarter in which notification of the event was received, not necessarily the quarter in which the event actually occurred.
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Re: now i have to look in france aswell

Postby PeterTimber » 03 Aug 2008, 13:44

It is Descashill (VS) not (BS) France. =Peter=
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Postby PeterTimber » 03 Aug 2008, 13:46

Sorry DECashill is proper spelling. =Peter=
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Postby vj » 03 Aug 2008, 13:58

Hi Peter :D !
I think the BS was only a notation for 'British Subject'
in the ancestry.com transcription.
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Re: now i have to look in france aswell

Postby tenby » 03 Aug 2008, 17:31

thank you both but now im stuck on who richard married i cant find him on the 1841 census so i presume he was in france i wondered if his wife was french or did work take him there i am very greatful for any info

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Postby Emmy » 03 Aug 2008, 20:56

Hi lynne
I have been researching in France recently too and I've just had a letter translated into French to request a copy of a birth certificate. Just let me know if you wish a copy of the letter if you do I'll post it to you in a pm
I'm sending you a p.m.
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Re: now i have to look in france aswell

Postby PeterTimber » 04 Aug 2008, 01:59

I went thru www.freeBMD.org/uk and went thru all the years without anything close to Decashill. I suspect a census most foul!!!!!!!!!=Peter=
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Postby PeterTimber » 04 Aug 2008, 02:01

oops! www.freebmd.org.uk =Peter=
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Re: now i have to look in france aswell

Postby tenby » 05 Aug 2008, 07:52

mystery solved i think it looks like a town called Decazeville nowhere near Paris Staffordshire men went there to work in the iron works as France was short of labour. Someone found this out on Roots for me. I cant thank them as it playing up and wont let me reply.

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Postby PeterTimber » 05 Aug 2008, 13:52

Good work!! Now that you have the letter to the Mayor your on your way!!=Peter=
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Re: now i have to look in france aswell

Postby Emmy » 05 Aug 2008, 19:56

Tenby bet you're pleased. I sent an email to the Mayor of St Germain de Livet on Saturday and I had a reply from him yesterday this is his reply. He has given me an address to write to. I was very surprised and pleased to receive a reply as quick as that. So Tenby dont waste time go ahead and write or send an email if you have the email address.
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