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Vetrone & Tolassi looking for around 1901

Postby checkin » 12 Nov 2008, 18:07

Looking for Italian ancestors Guissepe Tolassi (husband) & Carmela Vetrone (wife) that came over to America in 1901. They were from Casalduni, Italy.
I was on a page with someone asking about the same name, Vetrone, & lost it, anyone know where to go to search for it? Thank-you. Bob

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Re: Vetrone & Tolassi looking for around 1901

Postby PeterTimber » 12 Nov 2008, 18:14

check under search on top of your forum page for search. =Peter=

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Re: Vetrone & Tolassi looking for around 1901

Postby vj » 12 Nov 2008, 19:05

Hi Bob!
Do you have all of your US records (census, military, ship manifests)?
Just for reference, is this your family in 1910?
Thanks, Valarie

1910 census image

Home in 1910:
771 S 8th St
Philadelphia Ward 3, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

Head Giuseppe Tolassi Sr 41, abt 1869 IT
- married 18 yrs, abt 1892
- immig 1899, Al
- restaurant
Wife Carmela Tolassi 37, abt 1873 IT
- 12 children born, 7 children living
- immig 1901
Son Pasquale Tolassi 15, abt 1895 IT
- immig 1901
Son Nunzio Tolassi 14, abt 1896 IT
- immig 1901
Son Giuseppe Tolassi Jr 13, abt 1897 IT
- immig 1901
Daughter Vincenza Tolassi 7, abt 1903 PA
Daughter Melinda Tolassi 6, abt 1904 PA
Daughter Elvira Tolassi 6/12, abt 1909 PA
Father-in-law Giuseppe Vetrone 64, abt 1846 IT
- married 38 yrs, abt 1872
- immig 1903, Al
- vendor
Mother-in-law Isabella Vetrone 66, abt 1844 IT
- 4 children
- immig 1903

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Re: Vetrone & Tolassi looking for around 1901

Postby vj » 12 Nov 2008, 20:29

Just in case you haven’t seen these, from footnote. com

1914 Declaration

Publication Number: M1522
Publication Title: Naturalization Petitions for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania, 1795-1930
Publisher: NARA
State: Pennsylvania
Court: US Circuit Court
Year: 1914
Date: 17 Nov 1914
Immigrant Full Name: Giuseppe Tolassi
Document Type: Declaration of Intention
Home Country: Italy
Witness 1 Full Name: [Blank]
Witness 2 Full Name: [Blank]
Year Immigrated: 1899
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1916 Petition

Publication Number: M1522
Publication Title: Naturalization Petitions for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania, 1795-1930
Publisher: NARA
State: Pennsylvania
Court: US Circuit Court
Year: 1916
Date: 04 Dec 1916
Immigrant Full Name: Giuseppe Tolassi
Document Type: Petition for Naturalization
Home Country: Italy
Witness 1 Full Name: Anthony Amodei
Witness 2 Full Name: Bartley J Rowley
Year Immigrated: 1899
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1917 Oath

Publication Number: M1522
Publication Title: Naturalization Petitions for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania, 1795-1930
Publisher: NARA
State: Pennsylvania
Court: US Circuit Court
Year: 1917
Date: 06 Apr 1917
Immigrant Full Name: Giuseppe Tolassi
Document Type: Oath of Allegiance
Home Country: Italy
Witness 1 Full Name: [Blank]
Witness 2 Full Name: [Blank]
Year Immigrated: 1899

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Re: Vetrone & Tolassi looking for around 1901

Postby vj » 12 Nov 2008, 20:46

possible 1900 manifest

30 May 1900, SS Manilla, Napoli to NY
Line 5 (may be traveling with line 6)
Giuseppe Tolasi 36 (abt 1864)
- married
- cook
- last residence Casalduni
- destination Philadelphia
- joining brother-in-law Ciriaco Mazzarelli at 737 South 7th Street
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possible 1902 manifest

14 Jan 1902 Lombardia, Napoli to NY
Lines 12-18
Maria Carmina Vetrone 32
- last residence?
- destination Philadelphia
- joining husband Giuseppe at 808 S 7th Street
Children:
Michelino 8
Pasquale 7
Elvira 6
Annunziata 5
Giuseppina 4
Vincenzo 2

(note: several possible naturalization notations)

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Re: Vetrone & Tolassi looking for around 1901

Postby checkin » 12 Nov 2008, 21:00

VJ,
I cant thank you enough, I think you hit it on the head, no this is my neighbors family who I got into a discussion with when I bought a thick old book on Italy Illustrated, said the info she came across was all in Italian.
I will run this by her & press her for more details on census, military, etc.
These would be her grandparents, I beleive she mentioned something of 10 children, so when I verify, will get back to you. Thanks again. Bob
Currently unemployed in this 9% state, but enjoy relaxing & catching up on home details.

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Re: Vetrone & Tolassi looking for around 1901

Postby vj » 12 Nov 2008, 21:15

Bob, you're very welcome we're happy to help out.
There are death certificates for two children on this site:
http://search.labs.familysearch.org/rec ... 367819#p=0
(search under Carmela Vetrone)
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Re: Vetrone & Tolassi looking for around 1901

Postby Biff83 » 12 Nov 2008, 21:33

vj wrote:[14 Jan 1902 Lombardia, Napoli to NY
Lines 12-18
Maria Carmina Vetrone 32
- last residence?
- destination Philadelphia
- joining husband Giuseppe at 808 S 7th Street
Children:
Michelino 8
Pasquale 7
Elvira 6
Annunziata 5
Giuseppina 4
Vincenzo 2

(note: several possible naturalization notations)


Hi, Valarie!

On the Family Search site, there is also a death certificate for a Vincenzo Tolasssi, address 808 S. 8th? St, father Giuseppe and mother Carmela, in July of 1902.

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Re: Vetrone & Tolassi looking for around 1901

Postby vj » 12 Nov 2008, 21:39

Missed that one Biff :D - the other two certificates had mangled surnames
(Tolassi)
The age is hard to make out - 21?

And, another Vetrone
If this is Carmela's father,
Giuseppe's birth year is off a bit from the 1910 census...
May be related another way

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Re: Vetrone & Tolassi looking for around 1901

Postby vj » 12 Nov 2008, 21:54

Phila Death Certificates
Possible family:

1902 certificate

Note: not sure of the age … 2(?)
May be the Vincenzo from the 1902 manifest

Name: Vincenzo Tolassi
Death date: 26 Jul 1902
Death place: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Gender: Male
Race or color (on document):
Age at death: 21 years
Estimated birth year: 1881
Birth date:
Birth place:
Marital status:
Spouse name:
Father name: Giuseppe
Father birth place:
Mother name: Tolassi Carmela
Mother birth place:
Occupation:
Street address:
Residence:
Cemetery name:
Burial place:
Burial date:
Additional relatives:
Film number: 1853636
Digital GS number: 4009545
Image number: 1184
Reference number: 2259
Collection: Pennsylvania, Philadelphia City Death Certificates, 1803-1915
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1908 certificate

Name: C... Tolusi
Death date: 14 Oct 1908
Death place: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Gender: Male
Race or color (on document): white
Age at death: 1 year 2 months 17 days
Estimated birth year: 1907
Birth date:
Birth place: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Marital status: Single
Spouse name:
Father name: ... Tolusi
Father birth place: Italy
Mother name: Carmela Vetrone
Mother birth place: Italy
Occupation: Child
Street address: 771 So 8 St. ward 3
Residence: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Cemetery name: Holy Cross Cemetery
Burial place: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Burial date: 17 Oct 1908
Additional relatives:
Film number: 1402970
Digital GS number: 4009039
Image number: 365
Reference number: cn 24336
Collection: Pennsylvania, Philadelphia City Death Certificates, 1803-1915
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1909 certificate

Name: Alvira Talassi
Death date: 13 Dec 1909
Death place: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Gender: Female
Race or color (on document): White
Age at death: 13 years
Estimated birth year: 1896
Birth date:
Birth place: Italy
Marital status: Single
Spouse name:
Father name: Giuseppe Talasso
Father birth place: Italy
Mother name: Carmela Vetrone
Mother birth place: Italy
Occupation: None
Street address:
Residence: Philadelplhia, Penna.
Cemetery name:
Burial place: Philadelphia, Pa.
Burial date: 16 Dec 1909
Additional relatives:
Film number: 1405112
Digital GS number: 4009106
Image number: 164
Reference number: cn 27642
Collection: Pennsylvania, Philadelphia City Death Certificates, 1803-1915
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Carmela's parents?

edit: added
Same informant and address as Giuseppe Vetrone in 1914

1912 certificate

Name: Isabella Vedroni
Death date: 29 Sep 1912
Death place: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Gender: Female
Race or color (on document): White
Age at death: 76 years
Estimated birth year: 1836
Birth date:
Birth place: Italy
Marital status: Married
Spouse name:
Father name: Lorenzo Jacobelli (probably Iacobelli)
Father birth place: Italy
Mother name: Cristina Guarini
Mother birth place: Italy
Occupation: Housework
Street address:
Residence: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, PA
Cemetery name:
Burial place: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pa
Burial date: 01 Oct 1912
Additional relatives:
Film number: 1421345
Digital GS number: 4009268
Image number: 534
Reference number:
Collection: Pennsylvania, Philadelphia City Death Certificates, 1803-1915


1914 certificate

note: age may be off by abt 20 yrs?

edit: added
An index found by suanj :D in 2004
http://marie.bravepages.com/survet.htm

Vetrone Birth Records Between 1813 & 1860
Year/Child's Name/Father's Name/Mother's First Name/Mother's Last Name
1835 Giuseppe/ Vincenzo/ Maria Carmina DeZella


Name: Guiseppi Vetrone
Death date: 20 Mar 1914
Death place: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Gender: Male
Race or color (on document): white
Age at death: 57 years
Estimated birth year: 1857
Birth date:
Birth place: Italy
Marital status: Widowed
Spouse name:
Father name: Vincenzo Vetrone
Father birth place: Italy
Mother name: Maria Carunice D. Lella
Mother birth place: Italy
Occupation: Laborer
Street address: 1127 Wharton St., 26th Ward
Residence: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, PA
Cemetery name: Holy Cross Cem.
Burial place: Philadelphia
Burial date: 24 Mar 1914
Additional relatives:
Film number: 1429025
Digital GS number: 4009355
Image number: 474
Reference number: cn 7948
Collection: Pennsylvania, Philadelphia City Death Certificates, 1803-1915

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Re: Vetrone & Tolassi looking for around 1901

Postby vj » 12 Nov 2008, 22:53

From Find-a-grave
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... 21&ref=wvr

Burial::
Holy Cross Cemetery
Yeadon
Delaware County
Pennsylvania, USA
Plot: Section H Range 3

Joseph Tolassi
Birth: 1865 Death: 1924

Carmela Tolassi
Birth: 1870 Death: 1952

Frances Tolassi
Birth: 1903 Death: 1990

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Re: Vetrone & Tolassi looking for around 1901

Postby vj » 12 Nov 2008, 23:09

Possible manifest for Carmela’s parents

1902 manifest

9 Aug 1902 SS Algeria, Naples to NY
Lines 5 & 6

Giuseppe Vetrone 64, abt 1838
- last residence Casalduni
- destination Philadelphia
- joining sons(?) Cristiano? and Carmela at 737 South St
(note: similar address to Giuseppe Tolassi's 1900 manifest)
wife Isabella Iacobelli 61, abt 1841
- last residence Ponte

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Re: Vetrone & Tolassi looking for around 1901

Postby vj » 12 Nov 2008, 23:59

Philadelphia Directories from footnote. com:

Tolassi
1909
1912

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Re: Vetrone & Tolassi looking for around 1901

Postby vj » 13 Nov 2008, 00:35

possible 1920 census

Home in 1920:
117 N 9th Street
Philadelphia Ward 10, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

Head Joseph Tolassi 56, abt 1864 IT
- immig 1899, Na 1913
- proprietor, restaurant
Wife Carmela Tolassi 49, abt 1871 IT
- immig 1901, Na
Daughter Josephine De Santis 21, abt 1899 IT
- widow
- immig 1901, Na
Daughter Francis Tolassi 16, abt 1904 PA
Daughter Millie Tolassi 15, abt 1905 PA
Daughter Elvira Tolassi 10, abt 1910 PA
Grandson Joseph De Santis 1 11/12, abt 1918 PA
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possible 1930 census

Home in 1930:
1141 Wharton Street, owns $6500
Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

Head Carmela Tolassi 59, abt 1871 IT
- widow
- immig 1902, Na
Daughter Frances Tolassi 25, abt 1905 PA
- single
Son-in-law Louis Damico 23, abt 1907 MD
- married age 20, abt 1927
Daughter Elvira Damico 20, abt 1910 PA
Grandson Louis Damico 1 6/12, abt 1928 PA

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Re: Vetrone & Tolassi looking for around 1901

Postby vj » 13 Nov 2008, 01:07

Possible Draft Registration Cards

1918 Pasquale Tolassi
4 Sep 1894 in Italy
married

1942 Pasquale Tolassi
4 Sep 1895 in Italy


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