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English version of this name

Postby luvfamily » 07 Feb 2010, 16:23

Hi;

I was wondering if anyone would know the English version of this name?

Fioremattina

Am I correct in assuming it is a female?

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Re: English version of this name

Postby liviomoreno » 07 Feb 2010, 16:29

Never heard, btw it sounds feminine
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Re: English version of this name

Postby luvfamily » 07 Feb 2010, 16:42

It is a very unusual name.

thank you for your reply.

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Re: English version of this name

Postby johnnyonthespot » 07 Feb 2010, 18:39

luvfamily wrote:Hi;

I was wondering if anyone would know the English version of this name?

Fioremattina

Am I correct in assuming it is a female?

thank you

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It is a contraction of Fiore (flower) and Mattina (morning), hence "morning flower", a flower which blooms in the morning. Possibly she was born in the early morning hours.

I can't imagine what an English translation might be. Perhaps something like Gloria (after the Morning Glory plant species)
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Re: English version of this name

Postby luvfamily » 07 Feb 2010, 18:48

Thank you for your reply. That is beautiful! I never heard the name before she was born in 1912.

Have a great day!

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Re: English version of this name

Postby johnnyonthespot » 07 Feb 2010, 18:55

luvfamily wrote:Thank you for your reply. That is beautiful! I never heard the name before she was born in 1912.

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It is one of the wonderful features of the Italian language and culture that you can "make up" names in this manner and have them come out with both a beautiful, lyrical, sound and a beautiful meaning.
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Re: English version of this name

Postby liviomoreno » 07 Feb 2010, 19:35

Usually the civil officer wouldn't allow to invent new names... and the priest wouldn't allow a name that has no correspondent Saint.
Luvfamily, could you post the document where you found this name?
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Re: English version of this name

Postby luvfamily » 07 Feb 2010, 20:57

A cousin found the name on the 1925 census. She lives in upper NY. She is going to school and is busy doing a paper so she has not had time to post documents yet.

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Re: English version of this name

Postby johnnyonthespot » 07 Feb 2010, 21:02

luvfamily wrote:A cousin found the name on the 1925 census. She lives in upper NY. She is going to school and is busy doing a paper so she has not had time to post documents yet.

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It is possible then (probable?) that it is a nickname rather than her true given name.
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Re: English version of this name

Postby Squigy » 08 Feb 2010, 02:36

Hi.....just a question. Is it possible her name was Fiore Mattina? Fiore is used as a given name and Mattina is an Italian surname, so I just thought I'd mention this possibility.
My Italian surnames:

Caserta: Maietta, Rossano, Tessitore, Negro, Peluso, Musone

Campobasso: D'Andrea, Barile

Catanzaro: Fiorelli/Fiorillo, Romito
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Re: English version of this name

Postby luvfamily » 08 Feb 2010, 13:40

I don't think so the last name is Giulianelli.

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Re: English version of this name

Postby johnnyonthespot » 08 Feb 2010, 14:08

luvfamily wrote:I don't think so the last name is Giulianelli.

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Would you mind telling us more about Fioremattina? Where she lived? Approximate date of birth? Parent's names?
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Re: English version of this name

Postby MaryMena » 08 Feb 2010, 16:31

Is it possible that her name was "Fiorentina". I know that sometimes the parents missed their native land so much that they named a child after it.

I personally knew of a girl whose parents named her Italia. If "Fioremattina" was born in the US, perhaps the civil servants and the priest did not follow the restrictions as in Italy. Just a thought.

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Re: English version of this name

Postby johnnyonthespot » 08 Feb 2010, 16:38

MaryMena wrote:If "Fioremattina" was born in the US, perhaps the civil servants and the priest did not follow the restrictions as in Italy. Just a thought.

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And a good thought, at that.

Italy does not permit naming sons after their fathers, thus there are no "JR's" in Italy, however the US overflows with first and second generation Italian-Americans who are Jr's (myself, for one).
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