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What kind of hat is this?

Postby Edmondo » 14 Jun 2010, 14:09

What kind of hat is this?
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Re: What kind of hat is this?

Postby misbris » 14 Jun 2010, 15:37

The crown on top leads me to believe the RI stands for Royal Infantry.

I found a few images that are close from England, Australia and Canada. What do you think?

http://www.lightinfantry.org.uk/images/ ... ge1905.jpg


http://www.defence.gov.au/army/rainf/
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Re: What kind of hat is this?

Postby Edmondo » 14 Jun 2010, 15:45

I believe that it is an army hat and RI stands for Republica Italiana but I am not sure.

My father told me it is the hat of my grandfather. It is old but I don't know how old.
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Re: What kind of hat is this?

Postby carolinechurch » 14 Jun 2010, 20:38

Is there a makers label inside?
Searching for my great x3 grandfather Raffaele CIACCIA, also known as Raphael/Ralph CHURCH. He was born in Napoli around 1792 and arrived in London before 1812 with his brother Saverio CIACCIA, where they married sisters Ann and Jane FURNEAUX. He switched between CHURCH and CIACCIA all his life, which has made it difficult enough to pin him down. I want to find his origin in Italy.
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Re: What kind of hat is this?

Postby Tessa78 » 14 Jun 2010, 21:06

It reminds me of the hat of my grandfather's brother who played in the comune's band in 1921.

http://www.strongoli.org/scheda.asp?id=221

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Re: What kind of hat is this?

Postby Squigy » 15 Jun 2010, 07:32

Edmondo wrote:I believe that it is an army hat and RI stands for Republica Italiana but I am not sure.

My father told me it is the hat of my grandfather. It is old but I don't know how old.


When was your grandfather born? That way you can judge when he would have been in the military, and whether it would be a hat for the republic or the kingdom of Italy.
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Re: What kind of hat is this?

Postby Edmondo » 15 Jun 2010, 07:35

Thank you Tessa.
I think you are right, I know my grandfather played in the comune's band and the hats indeed look the same.

@carolinechurch, I will check next time if there is a makers label inside.


Tessa78 wrote:It reminds me of the hat of my grandfather's brother who played in the comune's band in 1921.

http://www.strongoli.org/scheda.asp?id=221

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Re: What kind of hat is this?

Postby Edmondo » 15 Jun 2010, 07:40

He was born in 1916 and I know he was a military in WW2, that is why I thougt it is a military hat.

Squigy wrote:
Edmondo wrote:I believe that it is an army hat and RI stands for Republica Italiana but I am not sure.

My father told me it is the hat of my grandfather. It is old but I don't know how old.


When was your grandfather born? That way you can judge when he would have been in the military, and whether it would be a hat for the republic or the kingdom of Italy.
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Re: What kind of hat is this?

Postby johnnyonthespot » 15 Jun 2010, 11:04

I am not certain as to how complete it is (not being able to easily read Italian makes it difficult for me to tell..) but Italy's Ministry of Defense website has a page titled "Uniformi e Tradizioni" here: http://www.difesa.it/Uniformi+e+Tradizioni/

Click around through it and you can see many images of uniforms through the years.
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Re: What kind of hat is this?

Postby johnnyonthespot » 15 Jun 2010, 11:43

I have to say, the cap's style appears to be too "old" for the WWII period based on the images here: http://www.diggerhistory.info/pages-uniforms/italy2.htm
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Re: What kind of hat is this?

Postby johnnyonthespot » 15 Jun 2010, 11:53

Not certain if this is his most current website/contact details ( http://rudydangelo.tripod.com/about.htm ), but Rudy D'Angelo of Farmington, Connecticut is a buyer/seller/collector of Italian militaria.

Perhaps he might be able to identify the cap?
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Re: What kind of hat is this?

Postby Julo » 26 Jun 2010, 01:49

RI stands for Repubblica Italiana but I could not tell you the military branch of that hat.
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Re: What kind of hat is this?

Postby Edmondo » 26 Jun 2010, 22:38

carolinechurch wrote:Is there a makers label inside?


I checked and there is no label. Also I am sure now it was my grandfathers hat he used when he played in the comune's band of Valle dell'Angelo (SA). He played the flicorno (saxhorn) :)

Thank you all for your help!
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