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Postby wldspirit » 27 Aug 2006, 23:49

This particular ancestor has been confusing..... :?
Just when I think I've got it......something throws me off!!
My cousin provided me with the research she had done, but she didn't go beyond James. I do believe James was married more than once and also a possibility he was named after his father.

I know for fact that James Pringle was born in 1832, possibly January.
Possible birth place, Hawick, Roxburgshire.
First wife, Isabella/Isabelle Rae/Ray, born 1835, Scotland.
Second wife, Ann J., surname unknown, born 1850, Ireland.

My grandmother used to say we had Scots-Irish in us, and she always referred to Isabella as being her grandmother........never mentioned anyone named Ann...but of course, family lore is one thing, facts are another....... :?

Will be interesting to see what you discover....also, I have no idea when he came to this country or with who!! The family was in Illinois up to 1880,
then moved to Clinton, Iowa.

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Re: Scotland

Postby Emmy » 28 Aug 2006, 03:06

Hi lisa
I've searched the records for James Pringle- (Hawick, Roxburgh is in the Scottish Borders) but there was no birth there for a James Pringle; Jan. 1832. There was one birth 1831 in Galashiels which is quite near Hawick and there was one for Feb.1832 but that was in Gordon which is in the north of Scotland

I've printed some copies of what I've found and I'm going to try to post them here but I'm not to sure about the linking.
I'll have a go anyway I'm sending you a pm

I'll try the links after I've posted this

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Re: Scotland

Postby wldspirit » 28 Aug 2006, 03:10

Wonder what the cousin used as source material? Need to email her and ask.....don't want to question her research methods.....but I am a firm believer in backing everything up with concrete documentation.....
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Re: Scotland

Postby Emmy » 28 Aug 2006, 03:46

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Births for James Pringle
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Re: Scotland

Postby wldspirit » 28 Aug 2006, 03:53

Thanks Emmy..and nice job with image shack!!

Popular name, huh???

Thanks....taking a power nap now.....was up till the wee hours..... :P

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Re: Scotland

Postby Emmy » 28 Aug 2006, 03:57

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marriage lists for James Pringle
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Re: Scotland

Postby Emmy » 28 Aug 2006, 04:02

Lisa I'll just post what I printed off then I'm off to bed soon for my 'beauty sleep'

:) You think Pringle is popular!! You should try Smith or Johnston :lol: :lol:
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Re: Scotland

Postby Emmy » 28 Aug 2006, 04:27

These are records of birth for Isabella


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Dont know what I did or what went wrong here but the 4 print offs are here

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Re: Scotland

Postby Emmy » 28 Aug 2006, 07:49

1. James PRINGLE - 1880 United States Census / Illinois
Self Gender: Male Birth: <1832> SCO

Matches: Census/1880 US Census - 1

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International Genealogical Index - British Isles
2. JAMES PRINGLE - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Birth: 22 JAN 1832 Hawick, Roxburgh, Scotland

3. JAMES THOMAS PRINGLE - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 23 APR 1832 Stow, Midlothian, Scotland

4. JAMES ROBERT MACLEOD PRINGLE - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 19 JUN 1832 West Calder, Midlothian, Scotland

5. JAMES PRINGLE - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 09 MAR 1832 St. Andrews And St. Leonards, Fife, Scotland

6. JAMES PRINGLE - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 17 AUG 1832 Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland

7. JAMES PRINGLE - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 29 APR 1832 Forfar, Angus, Scotland

8. JAMES PRINGLE - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 11 AUG 1832 Auchtermuchty, Fife, Scotland

9. James Pringle - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: < 1832> <Dalry, Ayr, Scotland>

10. JAMES PRINGLE - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 10 MAR 1832 Alloa, Clackmannan, Scotland

11. JAMES PRINGLE - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Marriage: 22 APR 1832 Cargill, Perth, Scotland

Matches: International Genealogical Index/British Isles - 10
Found these in familysearch.org
Some of them didnt show up under Scotlandspeople.gov.uk
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ps the James Pringle born in Hawick 22nd January died in October 1900
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Re: Scotland

Postby Emmy » 28 Aug 2006, 08:24

lisa I found this
Husband
JAMES PRINGLE Pedigree


Birth:
Christening:
Marriage: 02 JUL 1852 , Kane, Illinois
Death:
Burial:





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Wife
ISABELLA RAE Pedigree


Birth:
Christening:
Marriage: 02 JUL 1852 , Kane, Illinois
Death:
Burial:
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Re: Scotland

Postby Emmy » 28 Aug 2006, 08:48

Dont know if you have this information already but i'll post it just in case
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JAMES PRINGLE Pedigree


Birth: 24 JUL 1796 Hawick, Roxburgh, Scotland
Christening:
Marriage:
Death: 07 JUL 1836
Burial:



Father: ROBERT PRINGLE Family
Mother: ANN BUCKHOLM


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Wife
ANN MURRAY Pedigree


Birth: 1800 Hawick, Roxburgh, Scotland
Christening:
Marriage:
Death: 27 DEC 1846
Burial:





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Children

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1. JOHN PRINGLE Pedigree
Male

Birth: 08 JUL 1835 Hawick, Roxburgh, Scotland
Christening:
Death: 23 SEP 1888
Burial:



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2. WALTER PRINGLE Pedigree
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Birth: 17 DEC 1833 Hawick, Roxburgh, Scotland
Christening:
Death:
Burial:



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3. JAMES PRINGLE Pedigree
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Birth: 22 JAN 1832 Hawick, Roxburgh, Scotland
Christening:
Death: OCT 1900
Burial:



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4. ANN PRINGLE Pedigree
Female

Birth: 01 MAR 1830 Hawick, Roxburgh, Scotland
Christening:
Death: 1900
Burial:



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5. ROBERT C. SR. PRINGLE Pedigree
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Birth: 06 SEP 1825 Hawick, Roxburgh, Scotland
Christening:
Death: 07 JUN 1896
Burial:


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Re: Scotland

Postby wldspirit » 28 Aug 2006, 09:57

That really seems to match what I have......Walter is another repetitive name in that branch of the family..........and from the 1880 census I know that James was a marshall, which is kinda funny considering his descendants were all bootleggers!!!!!!!

But now to confirm records of Scotland......I want to make sure of the area before I start writing for any documentation......My mom and I are planning a trip North to the area where they lived and then over to Clinton, Iowa where the rest of the family migrated to.........again, I'm a stickler for concrete records.....I've seen to many family trees with absurd info on them!!!!!
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Re: Scotland

Postby Emmy » 28 Aug 2006, 13:55

Is it correct that James and Isabella married in Illinois. Are you sure she was born in Scotland?
If I find anything else I let you know. Pity it dint give more infromation on that record about the marriage.
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Re: Scotland

Postby wldspirit » 28 Aug 2006, 20:00

I almost feel like I'm going to have to go at this one from square one......
found two trees, some of the data relates to both trees...and some of it makes no sense.....my cousin stopped at James and wife, she concentrated more on descendants than ascendants........ at this point,
I'm not sure of anything......

I appreciate the help.....bless you......need to put all this into better perspective and see how it all relates........ :?

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