Vinci -

[gaeber]

I cannot find any lists of Italians to/in Argentina.

[PeterTimber]

I have Vito Vinci (born 1885) arriving Buenos Aires in 1913 at age 28 and this same person arrived in NYC in 1920 at age 34 (born 1886) and while the NYC entry reflect he is from Buccheri the Argentina record does not reflect town of origin but they are most likely the same person. If you wish to be absolutely certain there is someone in Buebnos Aires that check out his record in CEMLA (Argentina immigration Office in Buenos Aires) if you wish. The difference in one year betwen B.A. and NYC entries may be the result of his month of birth and arrival month. =Peter=

[Biff83]

Possible Social Security Death Record
Name: Vito Vinci
SSN: 115-07-xxxx
Last Residence: 33707 Saint Petersburg, Pinellas, Florida, United States of America
Born: 2 Jun 1898
Died: Oct 1983
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (Before 1951)

Biff

[suanj]

I cannot find any lists of Italians to/in Argentina. I did not find him in Ellis Island, nor any census.

Looking for info on Vito Vinci b. 1898 in Buccheri, Siracusa.

He went to Argentina as a young man, possibly with his brother.

I know he arrived in New York sometime before 1936, but probably in the 1920's. He married in N.Y. He owned a small grocery store there. I believe he lived in Brooklyn until 1946, when he moved to Florida.

I have Florida info on him. I have very little from Buccheri (just some family stories), N.Y. and nothing from Argentina.

I don't know where to look next. Any advice would be appreciated!

P.S. There is a Vito Vinci from Buccheri on EllisIsland, but I've been told his father's name is not Salvatore (it was Nunzio) and he was never married until he came to NY (although he could have abandoned her and kept it hush, hush) an I was told his brother stayed in Argentina (that kind of doesn't make sense) but, I never heard any of his descendants speak of the brother...as if they never met him.

Unfortunately everyone is either dead, senile or knows nothing.

Hi,
a Juan Giovanni Vinci came in USA in May 28, 1923 coming from Buenos Aires, Argentina, born in Sicily, IT lefting the brother Gaetano Vinci in Buenos Aires and joining at "friend" Vita( Vito) Vinci in Bronx, NY

First Name: Juan Giovanni
Last Name: Vinci
Ethnicity: Italy, Italian
Last Place of Residence: Buenos Aires, Argentina
Date of Arrival: May 28, 1923
Age at Arrival: 27y 3m Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Western World
Port of Departure: Buenos Aires, Argentina
Manifest Line Number: 0004

http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipM ... 0762%2ETIF

http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipM ... 2326030016

maybe helpful,
suanj

[gaeber]

Thanks for taking the time to look. You guys are great!

[wldspirit]

If you can provide further detail, members can search for records which may reveal further clues for you to follow. Spouse's first name, maiden name if known, names of children, and any birth dates, even a year can be helpful.

wldspirit

[suanj]

yes better to have more details because by deep search I cannot find nobody Vito Vinci arrival as a well census or marriage record... maybe by name wife and children could be possible to find more...
hugs,
suanj

[gaeber]

Thanks for your reply.

[suanj]

they married in 1937 and in Manhattan:
Trizzino Serafina Dec 11 1937 Manhattan #28736 certificate number

Serafina arrived in USA with children and husband in 1924 New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Serafina Trizzino
Name: Serafina Trizzino
Arrival Date: 28 Nov 1924
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Age: 25
Gender: Female
Ship Name: Giuseppe Verdi
Search Ship Database: Search the Giuseppe Verdi in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Line: 26
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_3577
Page Number: 191

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Angelo Trizzino
Name: Angelo Trizzino
Arrival Date: 28 Nov 1924
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Age: 26
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Palermo
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)
Ship Name: Giuseppe Verdi
Search Ship Database: Search the Giuseppe Verdi in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
NATIVITY: Italy
Line: 25
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_3577
Birth Location: Italy
Birth Location Other: bivona
Page Number: 170
all family was already in USA from 1921/4; the children was born in USA; the residence was in Brooklyn; but the marriage with Vito was in Manhattan....
naturalized in 1928:
Selected U.S. Naturalization Record Indexes, 1822-1855 and 1906-1966 (Indexed in World Archives Project)
about Sarafina Trizzino
Name: Sarafina Trizzino
Place of Residence: New York
Date of Action: 1928
Collection Title: Index, 1917-1950 Declarations of Intention, U.S. District Court, Southern Dist. of New York, M1675
NARA Series #: M1675
Roll #: 80


I found a naturalization record abt a Vito Vinci:
Vinci Vito 129 393 V520 http://stevemorse.org/vital/naturalizat ... indenter=d
but is unsure if is abt YOUR Vito Vinci, but is the only Vito Vinci naturalized in all NYC...
I cannot find nothing abt your ancestor.. it is very strange.....
suanj

[gaeber]

Suanj

I see the entry, thanks!

[suanj]

It are no the date.. only the volume, the page but I believe in the 1930s..

[gaeber]

RE: Hiring a researcher in Italy -

[PeterTimber]

There is a genealogy reseacher out of Utah who makes periodic trips to southern italy and Sicily. Her website is www.gentracer.com/onsite.html in the event you wish to explore hiring someone. =Peter=

[suanj]

RE: Hiring a researcher in Italy -

How much info does one have to have to make it worth while to hire a researcher on location in Sicily?

I only have Name, dob, commune and possible father name for Vito. Is that enough to actually have a successful outcome?

Has any of you ever done it?

by Mormon's microfilm you can descover more abt your ancestors:
Place Italy, Siracusa, Buccheri

Topics Italy, Siracusa, Buccheri - Census
Italy, Siracusa, Buccheri - Civil registration
Registri dello stato civile, 1820-1929 Buccheri (Siracusa). Ufficio dello stato civile
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library ... umns=*,0,0
so also abt the decesead sister of Vito etc....
suanj

[VinciFamily]

Did they happen to have a brother named Calogero (Charles)? Origin Sicily (Palermo)?