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Can't find records for a family (TORENTO/TORRENTE)

Postby LeandraCat » 13 Sep 2012, 15:37

Hi everyone,

I am hoping someone can help me locate records for my husband's family.

I recently received a copy of a marriage certificate from New Jersey archives.

Paul Schillaci (22) from Garfield, NJ, born in Italy
Lena Torento (18) from Garfield, NJ, born in Italy (parents: Giovanni Torento, Giuseppa Germanca).

Now, I know for a fact that Lena was much younger, she was in fact about 14 or 15 when this marriage took place.
I can't, however, find ANY record of Lena and her family...not in NJ, not anywhere.

I also don't think that GERMANCA is the mother's maiden name, I think it might be GIAMMANCA.

Can someone help me find a Census or ship manifest for Lena (possibly Lilly) and her family?

Thank you so much!
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Re: Can't find records for a family (TORENTO/TORRENTE)

Postby Michael31 » 13 Sep 2012, 17:06

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/K4P5-GQ6
United States Census, 1940," Paul Schillaci, Ward 4, Garfield, Garfield City, Bergen, New Jersey, United States
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name: Paul Schillaci
titles & terms:
event: Census
event year: 1940
event place: Ward 4, Garfield, Garfield City, Bergen, New Jersey, United States
gender: Male
age: 47
marital status: Married
race (original): White
race (standardized): White
relationship to head of household (original): Head
relationship to head of household (standardized): Head
birthplace: Italy
estimated birth year: 1893
residence in 1935: Same Place
enumeration district number: 2-134
family number: 94
sheet number and letter: 5A
line number: 5
nara publication number: T627
nara roll number: 2308
digital folder number: 005461966
image number: 00517
Household Gender Age Birthplace
head Paul Schillaci M 47 Italy
wife Lillian Schillaci F 46 Italy
son Tony Schillaci M 22 New Jersey
son Nick Schillaci M 15 New Jersey
Source Citation
"United States Census, 1940," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/K4P5-GQ6 : accessed 13 Sep 2012), Paul Schillaci, Ward 4, Garfield, Garfield City, Bergen, New Jersey, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) 2-134, sheet 5A, family 94, NARA digital publication T627, roll 2308.
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Re: Can't find records for a family (TORENTO/TORRENTE)

Postby vj » 13 Sep 2012, 17:07

Hey Julia,
for everyone's reference, the 1920 census in Garfield
Lena probably wouldn't be on a census earlier than 1920 if she arrived abt 1912-1913
(note: Lena also known as Lily, Lillian on 1930 and 1940 census records)
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1920 census
http://imageshack.us/a/img401/2461/1920e.jpg

Home in 1920:
72 Scudder Street, rents
Garfield Ward 4, Bergen, New Jersey

Paul Schellas 26
Liara (Lena) Schellas 18, abt 1902 IT
- immig 1912, nat 1919
Thomas Schellas 2
John Schellas 3/12
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Re: Can't find records for a family (TORENTO/TORRENTE)

Postby Michael31 » 13 Sep 2012, 17:15

www.ellisisland.org
214. Paolino Schillaci Campofranco, Sicily 1907 31 View View View
215. Paolino Schillaci Campofranco, Sicily 1912 34 View View View
216. Paolino Schillaci Lubera 1906 28 View View View
217. Paolino Schillaci S. Intera 1902 25 View View View
218. Paolino Schillaci Serra Falco, Sicily 1920 24 View View View
219. Paolino Schillaci Sutera 1907 27 View View View
220. Paolino Schillaci Sutera 1905 28 View View View
221. Paolo Schillaci 1904 10 View View View
222. Paolo Schillaci S. Agata, Messina 1910 26 View View View
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Re: Can't find records for a family (TORENTO/TORRENTE)

Postby Michael31 » 13 Sep 2012, 17:24

http://www.castlegarden.org/search_02.p ... ubmit.y=16


LAST NAME FIRST NAME AGE SEX ARRIVAL DATE PLACE OF LAST RESIDENCE
TORENTO ANTONIA 14 F 17 Apr 1893 LIPARI
TORENTO BARTOLO 4 F 17 Apr 1893 LIPARI
TORENTO BERNARDINO 51 M 17 Apr 1893 LIPARI
TORENTO CAROLINA 21 F 17 Apr 1893 LIPARI
TORENTO ELENA 7 F 17 Apr 1893 LIPARI
TORENTO ERMANNA 12 F 17 Apr 1893 LIPARI
TORENTO GENNARO 21 M 21 Apr 1905 MONTEPAGANO
TORENTO LUIGI 32 M 24 Mar 1902 SARNO
TORENTO ROSA 16 F 17 Apr 1893 LIPARI
TORENTO SANTA 44 F 17 Apr 1893 LIPARI
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Re: Can't find records for a family (TORENTO/TORRENTE)

Postby Michael31 » 13 Sep 2012, 17:27

http://www.castlegarden.org/search_02.p ... ubmit.y=16


LAST NAME FIRST NAME AGE SEX ARRIVAL DATE PLACE OF LAST RESIDENCE
GIAMMANCA FILIPPO 6 M 9 Jul 1903 PIANA GRECI
GIAMMANCA FRANCESCA 28 F 8 Jan 1900 VALLELUNGA
GIAMMANCA GIUSEPPE 14 M 9 Jul 1903 PIANA GRECI
GIAMMANCA MARIA 3 F 9 Jul 1903 PIANA GRECI
GIAMMANCA NICOLO 16 M 9 Jul 1903 PIANA GRECI
GIAMMANCA ROSALIA 27 F 24 May 1899 SFERRACA

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Re: Can't find records for a family (TORENTO/TORRENTE)

Postby LeandraCat » 13 Sep 2012, 18:10

Hi! Thanks everyone,

You are right, if Lena arrived with (or without) her family in 1912 and was married in 1916, she would not be on any census WITH her parents....
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