Monastra family

[tan42]

Hi , i live in new zealand and my grandfather is a Monastra. He was born in Castell'umberto, then moved to Stromboli. Any information on this family name??
His parents were Salvatore Monastra and Eleanora Criscillo, but dont know who Salvatores parents were??

Tanya:)

[erudita74]

Do you have estimated years of birth for these ancestors?

[adelfio]

How did you get Salvatore birth town?
New Zealand, Naturalisations, 1843-1981
Name:Salvatore Monastra
Birth Date:20 Aug 1884
Age:41
Birth Place:Fitzlio
Former Nationality:Italian
Occupation:Fisherman
Residence City:Wellington
Naturalisation Date:13 Nov 1925
File Number:20/1/3318
Certificate Register:78
Register Page Number:68

Marty

[erudita74]

How did you get Salvatore birth town?
New Zealand, Naturalisations, 1843-1981
Name:Salvatore Monastra
Birth Date:20 Aug 1884
Age:41
Birth Place:Fitzlio
Former Nationality:Italian
Occupation:Fisherman
Residence City:Wellington
Naturalisation Date:13 Nov 1925
File Number:20/1/3318
Certificate Register:78
Register Page Number:68

Marty

where is Fitzlio? Can't find anything about it. I am familiar with Castell'Umberto though.

[tan42]

Hi, thankyou for your replies sorry, i meant to say my grandfather was Umberto Monastra, named after Castell'umberto , his birthplace.
He was born in 1920 and still alive and well
Salvatore Monastra was born 1884 and died in nz 1970,which matches your reply Marty. Thankyou
Anyway I can go further back on his side as nothing is known here about his parents?

Tanya

[Tessa78]

Hi, thankyou for your replies sorry, i meant to say my grandfather was Umberto Monastra, named after Castell'umberto , his birthplace.
He was born in 1920 and still alive and well
Salvatore Monastra was born 1884 and died in nz 1970,which matches your reply Marty. Thankyou
Anyway I can go further back on his side as nothing is known here about his parents?

Tanya

Hi, Tanya !

The civil registrations for Castell'Umberto, Messina, are available to rent and view at your nearest LDS Family History Center. They have microfilms (births, marriages, deaths) for years 1865-1910
https://familysearch.org/search/catalog ... m%2F663642

To find your nearest FHC...
https://familysearch.org/locations

T.

[suanj]

I cannot find Umberto Monastra birth record ( 20 aug 1884)in Castell'Umberto civil record, here the birth record of 20 aug 1884:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... 1656288137
I searched until 30 sep 1884 and no birth record..

Birth Place:Fitzlio

I searched also in San Salvatore di Fitalia and in Stromboli birth records and I no found Umberto birth record on 20 aug (+ -) 1884...
suanj

[erudita74]

I took the liberty of emailing the anagrafe office in Castell'Umberto yesterday, as two years ago I had very good luck with the town official there replying almost immediately to my emails. At the time, I had already done the available microfilmed records for the town, but these only started in 1866. The town official, over the course of a week's worth of emails, got me back to the early 1820s. Anyway, his results below coincide with suanj's finding that there was no Salvatore Monastra born in Castell'Umberto on Aug 20, 1884, which was the date I had reported to him. There are, however, individuals with the name Salvatore Monastra with different dates of birth in the town registers.

COMUNE DI CASTELL'UMBERTO
In risposta vostra email si comunica che non risulta nato in questo comune alcun nominativo con la data di nascita riportata, bensi con date di nascita diverse.cordiali saluti gaetano battagliola

Another thing is that you can now access all of the records for this town online. The ones starting with the years 1866 can be accessed at familysearch.org

Italy, Messina, Patti, Ci...on (Tribunale), 1823-1941 Castell'Umberto-below are the only records available at this website

Allegati (matrimoni) 1910
Allegati (matrimoni) 1912
Allegati (matrimoni) 1912-1916
Allegati (matrimoni) 1914
Allegati (matrimoni) 1915
Allegati (matrimoni) 1919
Allegati (matrimoni) 1920
Allegati (matrimoni, pubblicazioni) 1911
Allegati (pubblicazioni) 1913
Cittadinanze 1866-1910
Matrimoni 1867-1910
Matrimoni, pubblicazioni 1866-1889
Matrimoni, pubblicazioni 1890-1910
Morti 1866-1910
Nati 1865-1881
Nati 1882-1910

The earlier records were originally available at familysearch.org, but now to access them you must go to the following website and search under Castania, which was the town's name before Castell'Umberto-

http://antenati.san.beniculturali.it/v/ ... i+Messina/

The records there go from 1820 to 1865.

[tan42]

Thankyou all so much for the information. It really is a journey finding it all out isn't it?
Well, i guess my grandad Umberto must of been born somewhere else??
I know they are all Strombolani,so perhaps records from there? If there are any? So exciting and interesting.....thankyou all again from New Zealand
Tanya

[erudita74]

Tanya
I sent another email to the town official in Castell'Umberto to see if Umberto was born there in 1920. I also told him that I was looking for a town of birth of his parents. I'll let you know if I hear from him again.
Erudita

[tan42]

thankyou Erudita

[erudita74]

Tanya
Umberto was definitely born in Castell'Umberto-here is the reply from the town official in the anagrafe office there-

MONASTRA UMBERTO- M- nato a CASTELL'UMBERTO -il 01/03/1920 -atto 31 P1 padre MONASTRA SALVATORE CALOGERO
madre CRESCILLO ELEONORA -stato civile CELIBE

Umberto M Monastro born in Castell'Umberto on March 1, 1920, record #31, Part I, father Salvatore Calogero Monastra and mother Eleonora Crescillo, civile state, single.

Do you know if Umberto had siblings older than him that would have been born in the town or have any idea what year Salvatore and Eleonora might have married? If there were older brothers or sisters, I could then estimate a marriage year for them and ask the town official to check the marriage registers to see if there is a marriage record for them. That would have their places of birth and names of their parents on it.

Anyway, at least you now have a middle name for Salvatore which could help in searching for the correct one.

Erudita

[suanj]

wonderful ! I made confusion between Salvatore and Umberto; Salvatore was the father (1884) and Umberto the son (1920) ok, happy that the birth record is found!
suanj

[suanj]

Salvatore Calogero Monastra (# 81) born in San Salvatore di Fitalia ( Messina province) on 20 Aug 1884, son of Giuseppe Monastra 46 old, farmer, and of Rosa Locascio seamstress


suanj

[Tessa78]

Great find, suanj!!!

T.