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Re: Rinella, D'Anna, Rubino from Palermo (Trabia?)

Postby vj » 22 Jan 2007, 19:07

Rinella Family
Giuseppe Rinella's (1876) brother

1918 WWI Draft Registration Card
Salvatore Rinella, 45
41 N Main Street
Albion, Orleans, NY
born 22 May 1873
naturalized
fruit dealer
wife Agostino same address
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Re: Rinella, D'Anna, Rubino from Palermo (Trabia?)

Postby vj » 22 Jan 2007, 19:20

Rinella Family
1890 manifest
Name: Salvatore Rinella
Ship Name: Olympia
Arrival Date: 8 May 1890
Estimated birth year: abt 1873 Age: 17
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Destination: New York
Line: 32 (abt 4th name after the page break)
Microfilm Roll: M237_547
List Number: 621
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Re: Rinella, D'Anna, Rubino from Palermo (Trabia?)

Postby vj » 22 Jan 2007, 19:43

Rinella Family
1920 census
Name: Salvidore Renella
Home in 1920:
41 North Main Street, owns house with mortgage
Albion, Orleans, New York
head Salvidore Renella 46 (abt 1974)
- Na 1896?
- fruit dealer
wife Augustine 43 (abt 1877)

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1930 census Rinella/Barone
Name: Salvatore Renella
Home in 1930:
41 North Main Street, owns $5000 no mortgage
Albion, Orleans, New York
head Salvatore Renella 57 (abt 1873)
- age first marriage 35 (abt 1908)
- immig 1889 Na
- merchant, fruits
wife Augustina 53 (abt 1877)
- age first marriage 18 (abt 1895)
- immig 1892 Na
lodger August Barone 28 (abt 1902)
- single
- immig 1910 Na
- truck driver
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Re: Rinella, D'Anna, Rubino from Palermo (Trabia?)

Postby len52mar » 22 Jan 2007, 20:30

Salvadore and Augustina did live in Albion , NY and my Dad said he was in/drafted for WWI. He had a store there and had a fruit wagon. The name Spalli did ring some bells. We are all going over my Auntie's house tomorrow to see if I can't dig a bit farther.

My grandmother was a widow at about 39 with six kids and was really depressed, from what I hear, and communication was difficult plus there were "things " they probably didn't want the children to hear? My Dad spoke Sicilian to her until she died when he was 14 y/o and never spoke it after that..this he told me about three years ago!!!! The things my parents never told me, how I wish I could speak the language now!!!

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Re: Rinella, D'Anna, Rubino from Palermo (Trabia?)

Postby vj » 22 Jan 2007, 21:41

Marlene,
from 1930 census in Albion
- Salvatore Rinella's wife, Augustina Barone - was she married twice?
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"Joseph Rubino (Josephine's brother) married Josephine Cancemilla (sp?), they were first cousins ! If I can read my own writing it says they were both morticians! They had two boys. How was a Cancemilla a first cousin?"
Name was probably Cianciamilla.
There are a couple of Joseph Rubino's married to a Josephine.
One in Oakland, one in Campbell. Neither are morticians.
- Do you have any of their children's names?
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Re: Rinella, D'Anna, Rubino from Palermo (Trabia?)

Postby vj » 22 Jan 2007, 22:34

Rubino/Alario Family
Carmella Rubino Rinella's sister Salvatora

Marlene, question, do you think Salvatora and Kate Alario
from the 1910 census are the same person?
Also, note mother's married name on possible death index.
Thanks :D , Valarie

"(Salvadora Alario was my g.mothers sister)"

California Death Index, 1940-1997
Name: ALARIO, SALVATORA
Social Security #: xxx-xx-4709
Sex: FEMALE
Birth Date: 29 Jan 1887
Birthplace: OTHER COUNTRY
Death Date: 24 Aug 1958
Death Place: SONOMA
Mother's Maiden Name: DEMATEO
Father's Surname: RUBINO
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edit: added 1930 & 1920 census
1930 census
Name: Innocenzo H Alario
Home in 1930:
941 York Street, owns $7,000, w/o mortgage
San Francisco, San Francisco, California
head Innocenzo H Alario 50 (abt 1880)
- married age 25 (abt 1905)
- immig 1895, Na
proprietor, poultry co, owner
wife Salvatora 42 (abt 1888)
- married age 18 (abt 1905-6)
- immig 1903, Pa
Children born in CA
daughter Josephine 21 (abt 1909)
daughter Mamie 18 (abt 1912)
daughter Mary 16 (abt 1914)
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1920 census
Name: Innocenzo Alario
Home in 1920:
197 Banks? Street, owns w/o mortgage
San Francisco Assembly District 23, San Francisco, California
head Innocenzo Alario 39 (abt 1881)
- immig 1902, Pa
wife Salvatore 33 (abt 1887)
- immig 1908, Al
- peddler, fruit, working on own account
Children all born in CA
daughter Santa 13 (abt 1907)
daughter Josie 11 (abt 1909)
daughter Mary 9 (abt 1911)
daughter Mame 6 (abt 1914)

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(repeat from earlier post)
Name: Joseph Rinaldo (Rinallo)
Home in 1910:
Farm on Quimby Road, owns with mortgage
San Jose, Santa Clara, California
sister-in-law Kate Alario 22 (abt 1888)
- married 4 yrs (abt 1906)
- 2 children born/ 2 children living
- immig 1904
nephew?? Sante Alario 3 (abt 1907)
- b in CA
niece Josie Alario 1 (abt 1909)
- b in CA
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Re: Rinella, D'Anna, Rubino from Palermo (Trabia?)

Postby len52mar » 22 Jan 2007, 23:53

vj wrote:Rubino Family
Carmella Rubino Rinella's sister Salvatora

Marlene, question, do you think Salvatora and Kate Alario
from the 1910 census are the same person?
Also, note mother's married name on possible death index.
Thanks :D , Valarie
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[b]Valerie, I will ask my Dad and Aunt tomorrow because I haven't a clue. I hope I can supply you with some solid info after tomorrow.
I'll keep working on my end!
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Re: Rinella, D'Anna, Rubino from Palermo (Trabia?)

Postby vj » 23 Jan 2007, 00:40

DiMatteo/Cianciamilla Family

"Joseph Rubino (Josephine's brother) married
Josephine Cancemilla (sp?), they were first cousins..
How was a Cancemilla a first cousin?....
Katie Terranova is Joe Cancamilla's sister"


This may be Carmella Rubino Rinella's aunt:
her mother's (Josephine DiMatteo Rubino)
sister - Caterina DiMatteo Cianciamilla

1901 manifest
29 Apr 1901, SS Patria, Naples to NY
Lines 8-10
Caterina Di Matteo, 21 (abt 1879)
- married
- has naturalization notations
- last residence Trabia
- going to San Francisco
- joining husband at 11 Gaspar Place?
Giuseppa Cianciamilla, 4 (abt 1896)
Salvatore Cianciamilla, 2 (abt 1898)
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Re: Rinella, D'Anna, Rubino from Palermo (Trabia?)

Postby vj » 23 Jan 2007, 01:10

Rubino/Di Matteo/Vallelunga Family
possibly Carmella Rubino Rinella's
mother Josephine Di Matteo Rubino &
aunt Caterina Di Matteo Cianciamilla


California Death Index, 1940-1997
(repeat from previous post)
Name: RUBINO, JOSEPHINE
Birth Date: 15 Jan 1858
Birthplace: OTHER COUNTRY
Death Date: 14 Nov 1941
Death Place: SAN FRANCISCO
Mother's Maiden Name: VALLEUNGO
Father's Surname: DIMATEO

Name: CANCIAMILLA, CATERINA
Birth Date: 23 Jan 1879
Birthplace: ITALY
Death Date: 24 Jul 1963
Death Place: SANTA CLARA
Mother's Maiden Name: VALLELUN (prob Vallelunga)
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Re: Rinella, D'Anna, Rubino from Palermo (Trabia?)

Postby len52mar » 24 Jan 2007, 19:51

Hello Again-
Here is what I found out yesterday.

Josephine DiMateo had 3 sisters maybe a 4th:

Name ? but married a Catucci and was either married or had a son named Gaspar and he was a dentist. Gaspar Catucci had brothers, Bart, Frank and 2 others. They lived in SanJose, CA

Catherine (aka; Kate !!!) married a Canciamella (1st cousins )

Salvatore married Alario(he went by a nickname) and had daughters , Santa. Mamie, Josie and Mary.

Carmela-I don't think they were really sure on this one- no info.


One of Josephines relatives , either a brother or an Uncle on the mothers side was a Bishop in Rome.

Josephines Son, Joe, married a Cancimella one of Catherines daughters.
(1st cousins)

Josephine's husband never came to the USA and died in Sicily (Trabia?) they didn't know his first name.


My aunt said Kate is Salvadora's daughter and she married an Alario which didn't make sense to me. Then she said Kate is Catherine (Josephines sister-makes sense) Then said Kate (Catherine) was a daughter of the the Cancimella's and she married a Georgetta.

Campangia or Campania near the Unc. Salvadore Rinella in N.York is a cousin, he was a lawyer. No first name given

James Rinella born/died in San Francisco, was an MD and a dentist .

Mary Rinella, my Dads sister, was married to Andy Allono and had a daughter Wilma now married to a Caldwell.

They did not recall the names Luciano Caruso, Salvatore Formosa. My Dad said there are two Canciamella brothers still alive he can ask about the family, if he can find them.

It was very confusing but I do know that Josephine was my great g. mother and that in it's self is a wonderful link!

I went to the LDS library last night but couldn't find any card files or microfilm on Palermo,Sicily or Rinella, nor was there any one that seemed to know much..very disappointed. There were tons of reference materials on how to find info, lol.

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Re: Rinella, D'Anna, Rubino from Palermo (Trabia?)

Postby vj » 24 Jan 2007, 21:12

Marlene, thanks for the update :D !
I added the link for the 1930 census for James Rubino
and his mother Josephine DiMatteo Rubino. He was a
dentist. (on previous page)
Question for you
How are you keeping your data organized :wink: ?
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Re: Rinella, D'Anna, Rubino from Palermo (Trabia?)

Postby len52mar » 24 Jan 2007, 21:21

After yesterdays inqusiton with my Aunt and Dad I realized I need a better way to organize myself :roll: . I did just download some blank family tree forms from the LDS site, can you suggest something better?

Where do I write in Palermo to find my grand parents marrige certificate and birth records? I'm assuming they were born in Trabia, or is there a another avenue I should take?

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Re: Rinella, D'Anna, Rubino from Palermo (Trabia?)

Postby vj » 24 Jan 2007, 21:39

Marlene,
The LDS forms are terrific :D !
Did you notice their free computer program download?

Your question on Italian records should be answered
by another forum member - I haven't been able to
do this first hand (yet)
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Re: Rinella, D'Anna, Rubino from Palermo (Trabia?)

Postby wldspirit » 24 Jan 2007, 21:53

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Re: Rinella, D'Anna, Rubino from Palermo (Trabia?)

Postby len52mar » 24 Jan 2007, 22:30

So I go back to the LDS and request all those films or should I just order what timeframe would include my g.parents birth/marriage dates are? Start with my grandparents and work my way back if possible?

What does your signature mean?
"Cambiano i suonatori ma la musica è sempre quella."

Thanks! Marlene
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