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Re: Ricciotti/Santangelo/Giannantonia

Postby PeterTimber » 10 Aug 2008, 22:04

Dear Tony Ric I went thru those manifests as did Misbris but it was my judgement it was not worth mentioning but you cannot go wrong with information as long as it does not get in the way of your objectives. =Peter=
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Re: Ricciotti/Santangelo/Giannantonia

Postby misbris » 10 Aug 2008, 22:08

I was thinking that the Cesidia might be a first cousin (named after the same grandmother? ) Since she was also going to Boston, it seemed a possibility. Does her husband's name Luigi Bertoni (?)ring any bells?
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Re: Ricciotti/Santangelo/Giannantonia

Postby tonyric » 10 Aug 2008, 22:18

Huh, that Santangelo doesn't show up in any census records anywhere. Could be a lack of good indexing.....
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Re: Ricciotti/Santangelo/Giannantonia

Postby tonyric » 11 Aug 2008, 18:29

NARA was a waste of time for me. They wouldn't help and then just pointed me to the actual manifests. <shrug> Now I am lost.
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Re: Ricciotti/Santangelo/Giannantonia

Postby tonyric » 11 Aug 2008, 18:34

misbris wrote:I was thinking that the Cesidia might be a first cousin (named after the same grandmother? ) Since she was also going to Boston, it seemed a possibility. Does her husband's name Luigi Bertoni (?)ring any bells?


Unfortunately Luigi Bertoni doesn't ring anything. But, I will be with my father and uncle tonight and will ask if it does with them. Apparently there was a rift between my GF and Frank, so little information about that part of the family was passed along.
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Re: Ricciotti/Santangelo/Giannantonia

Postby PeterTimber » 11 Aug 2008, 21:15

Dear Tonyric just what manifest did he refer you to? If it is a boston ma nfiest then you can rent out the miocrofilm reel. Why not try again with the excuse that you are having trouble locating it and since they have the INDEX FOR HER , disaster.= could you please do me the favor etc etc and be humble,sweet and display all the warmth and tenderness you can muster. I have always had people obtain information telephonically with much success.....your my first ntil you report back. Maybe he will intercede in your behalf. =Peter=
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Re: Ricciotti/Santangelo/Giannantonia

Postby tonyric » 11 Aug 2008, 21:24

Peter, you had me until the last sentence. LOL

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Re: Ricciotti/Santangelo/Giannantonia

Postby PeterTimber » 11 Aug 2008, 21:36

What I note is that somehow my reference to turning the Statue of Saint Anthony upside down as a gesture in your achieving success with that obtuse NARA nerd has been deleted or eliminated by nefarious gremlins in my PC. I will reinstate my invocation of my plea in your behalf and will turn him right side up when you achieve success...=Peter=
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Re: Ricciotti/Santangelo/Giannantonia

Postby pink67 » 12 Aug 2008, 14:51

Hi Tony,

I don't want to make confusion but could you take a look at this arrival manifest?

Name: Maria Santangelo
Arrival Date: 26 Nov 1910
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Age: 21
Gender: Female
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)
Ship Name: Romanic
Search Ship Database: Search the Romanic in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Nativity: Italy
Line: 25
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_1600
Birth Location: Italy
Birth Location Other: baiana right spell Raiano
Page Number: 84

page 1:
[img=http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/5837/santangelomaria1910arriii2.th.jpg]

page 2:
[img=http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/1617/santangelomaria1910arricu0.th.jpg]


she was coming from Raiano, (L'Aquila Province, abruzzo Region, just 9 miles from Sulmona) joining her brother Vincenzo living in 8 Noyes Place, Boston and leaving in Italy her mother Cesidia....
Maybe her first name could have been Maria?? :?

-From:
http://italia.indettaglio.it/eng/abruzzo/raiano.html

I saw that in Raiano the most common surnames are:

85.05 Di Giannantonio
65.61 Arquilla
60.75 Del Boccio
58.32 Tiberi
55.89 Di Bartolo

do you know if she had siblings???
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Re: Ricciotti/Santangelo/Giannantonia

Postby tonyric » 12 Aug 2008, 16:03

OMG you rock!!!!!!! I was thinking that he was a tie in and was looking at him. The residence is 1000' from the residence they were living in the 1920 census. This is a STRONG connection and the only good connection I have had so far.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH :)
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Re: Ricciotti/Santangelo/Giannantonia

Postby pink67 » 12 Aug 2008, 16:29

Maybe, in some way.... we could connect this man with Domenica.... :wink:

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Vincenzo Santangelo
Name: Vincenzo Santangelo
City: Boston
County: Suffolk
State: Massachusetts
Birth Date: 11 Apr 1883
Race: White
Roll: 1684775
DraftBoard: 4

unfortunately there is no place of birth.....

[img=http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/4136/santangelovincenzowwihs9.th.jpg]

and:

1920 United States Federal Census
about Vincent Santangelo
Name: Vincent Santangelo
Home in 1920: Boston Ward 5, Suffolk, Massachusetts
Age: 36 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Carmella
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of Immigration: 1906
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 594
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Vincent Santangelo 36 head
Carmella Santangelo 39 wife , year of imm. 1917? born Italy
Jennie Santangelo 13 daughter, year of imm. 1917 born Italy
Angelina Santangelo 10 daughter
Helen Santangelo 1 1/12 daughter
Nunzio Boleo 5 boarder
Joseph Diberio 67 boarder
Dominic Vendreses 21 boarder
Paulo Dimasio 32 boarder
Alexander Pasauale 32boarder

[img=http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/1192/santangelovincenzo1920cwh0.th.jpg]

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Re: Ricciotti/Santangelo/Giannantonia

Postby tonyric » 12 Aug 2008, 17:22

Vincent was naturalized (cannot make out the date, but based on birth vs census, it looks like the same man):

Name: Vincenzo Santangelo
Birth Date: 11 Apr 1883
Birth Location: Raiano, Italy
Spouse: Carmela
State: Massachusetts
Locality, Court: District of Masssachusetts, U.S. Circuit and District Courts
Title: Index to Naturalization Petitions and Records of the U.S. District Court, 1906-1966, and the U.S. Circuit Court, 1906-1911, for the District of Massachusetts
Description: Rudl to Shauris
Series: M1545
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Re: Ricciotti/Santangelo/Giannantonia

Postby tonyric » 12 Aug 2008, 17:41

With the naturalization card (I just looked long and hard at it), I see it is the same vincent, same DOB and address. I believe he is also the same man as the 20 census data. NOW, with the birth place of both and the Cesidia link and all else, I think I have enough circumstantial evidence to pull a birth record on Maria. Domenica, could very well have been her middle name. :)

If you find any other links, please forward them along. :) Thank you again for your help so far.
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Re: Ricciotti/Santangelo/Giannantonia

Postby pink67 » 12 Aug 2008, 17:55

I'm pleased to help like everybody here! :D

so, I'm thinking this could be Vincenzo's arrival in 1907:
note that he declared Prezza Pia? as last residence but Raiano as place of birth....
I found that Prezza is a little town near to Raiano....(about 5 miles)

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Vincenzo Santangelo
Name: Vincenzo Santangelo
Arrival Date: 30 Mar 1907
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Age: 23
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)
Ship Name: Konig Albert
Search Ship Database: View the Konig Albert in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Line: 15
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_856
Birth Location Other: bugnara (on the manifest line 15 :Raiano)
Page Number: 37


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Re: Ricciotti/Santangelo/Giannantonia

Postby tonyric » 12 Aug 2008, 18:07

I found that Prezza is a little town near to Raiano....(about 5 miles)


and it is between raiano and sulmona. :) This is becoming less and less squishy. We have tied vincent and domenica together. Now, if one of my family rememberes an Uncle Vincent/Vinnie/Vincenzo, Aunt Carmella, or cousin jenny, angelina or helen then I will be almost positive I have the family link. :-D
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