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Re: Croce - Looking up Croce Relatives

Postby wldspirit » 28 Oct 2008, 16:18

Perhaps the following will help, includes an article on analyzing records:

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Re: Croce - Looking up Croce Relatives

Postby BenKline » 28 Oct 2008, 19:14

Thank you for the link. It definitely seems that you guys were right that Antonio Croce came over here, not on the SS Ancona in 1911 (12.9.11); but it still seems he came over to meet his uncle (not father) Bartolomeo Croce. It also seems very likely that his brothers ARE Domencio and Vincenzo Croce.

The Mother and Father issue though is my only problem. I am getting conflicting reports from numerous sources; online and off.
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Re: Croce - Looking up Croce Relatives

Postby BenKline » 11 Nov 2008, 18:32

Any new news?
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Re: Croce - Looking up Croce Relatives

Postby vj » 11 Nov 2008, 21:11

Sister Carolina Croce Di Blasio
1912 manifest
page 2

12 Apr 1912 SS Cedric Naples to NY
Line 30

Carolina Croce Di Blasio 26 (abt 1886)
- married
- last residence Montefino, Teramo
- in Montefino, mother Domenica Ranalli
- destination Annville PA
- not in US before
- joining husband Antonio Di Blasio at box 105 Annville PA
- note: traveling with page J, lines 1/2
- born in Montefino, Teramo

These are the folks she was traveling with
Lines 1 & 2
J page 1
J page 2
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Re: Croce - Looking up Croce Relatives

Postby vj » 11 Nov 2008, 21:18

As suggested earlier in your post, you can order (rent) and view the microfilmed records for Montefino at your nearest Family History Center

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Topic
Italy, Teramo, Montefino - Civil registration

Titles
Registri dello stato civile, 1866-1910 Montefino (Teramo).
Ufficio dello stato civile
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In case you aren’t familiar with the Famly History Center & Italian records

FamilySearch Home Page
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A helpful essay written by Trish, one of our forum members:
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Italian Record Research from the FamilySearch research guides:
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Three terrific books
to help you find, read & understand your records:

Italian Genealogical Records
How to Use Italian Civil, Ecclesiastical, &
Other Records in Family History Research

By Tafford R Cole
google book link

A Genealogist’s Guide to
Discovering Your Italian Ancestors
How to find and record your unique heritage
By Lynn Nelson
google book link

Finding Italian Roots
By John Philip Colletta, PhD
google book link
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Re: Croce - Looking up Croce Relatives

Postby vj » 11 Nov 2008, 21:24

Ben,
You can also write to the comune for individual records
(need to know names & dates)
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Ufficio dello Stato Civile
Comune di Montefino
64030 MONTEFINO TE
ITALY

Interactive form letter with instructions:
http://www.circolocalabrese.org/resourc ... civile.asp
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Re: Croce - Looking up Croce Relatives

Postby vj » 11 Nov 2008, 22:31

MANNO

BenKline wrote:Looking for the ancestors (parents, grandparents, great grandparents, etc.) of the following:

Croce, Antonio
* b. Feb 28 1897
o Fugento, Italy
* d. Dec 29 1972
o Hershey, Pennsylvania

* m. Croce (Manno), Carmella

Known parent: Donato Croce (no known information)
Known parent: Anna Ranalli [Croce] (no known information)


Do you have all of your Manno family records in the US?

2nd trip?

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15 Dec 1908 SS La Bretagne, Havre to NY
Lines 21-25

Anna Manno 32, abt 1876
- married
- non-immigrant alien
- nationality Italian/Northern Italian
- in La Seyne France, mother Filomena Garelli
(note: La Seyne-sur-Mer, or La Seyne, is a town and commune of the Var department in Provence, southeast France)
- destination Wilmington, Delaware
- in US 1902-1908 in Wilmington
- joining husband Antonio Manno at 113 West Front Street
- born in France La Seyne

Children:
Filomena 14, abt 1894
- non-immigrant alien
- nationality Italian/Northern Italian
- born in France La Seyne
Antonia 8, abt 1900
- non-immigrant alien
- nationality Italian/Northern Italian
- born in France La Seyne
Carmela 7, abt 1901
- non-immigrant alien
- nationality Italian/Northern Italian
- born in France La Seyne
Rosina 1, abt 1907
- US born
- born in Philadelphia
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1st manifest?

1903 manifest image

27 Apr 1903 SS La Gascogne, Havre to NY
Lines 26-30

Antonio Manno 37, abt 1865
- tinsmith
- nationality Italian
- last residence Toulon (Var department, Provence, France)
- destination NY
- joining brother Salvatore Cassagrand (probably Casagrande), (in care of the) Banca Tocci at 87 Park Street
Wife Anna 27, abt 1875

Children:
Philamene 7, abt 1895
Antoinette 2 ½, abt 1900
Carmel 11 mos, abt 1902
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Re: Croce - Looking up Croce Relatives

Postby BenKline » 12 Nov 2008, 15:16

Thanks VJ; that all matches the information I have on the Manno's - and adds the brother for me (Salvatore).

Anything else on the Croce side?
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Re: Croce - Looking up Croce Relatives

Postby vj » 12 Nov 2008, 16:27

vj wrote:Sister Carolina Croce Di Blasio
1912 manifest
page 2

12 Apr 1912 SS Cedric Naples to NY
Line 30

Carolina Croce Di Blasio 26 (abt 1886)
- married
- last residence Montefino, Teramo
- in Montefino, mother Domenica Ranalli
- destination Annville PA
- not in US before
- joining husband Antonio Di Blasio at box 105 Annville PA
- note: traveling with page J, lines 1/2
- born in Montefino, Teramo

These are the folks she was traveling with
Lines 1 & 2
J page 1
J page 2


Ben, you saw this?
It confirms Anna Domenica Ranalli's name.
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Re: Croce - Looking up Croce Relatives

Postby BenKline » 13 Nov 2008, 17:12

Thank you very much for all of your help VJ.
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Re: Croce - Looking up Croce Relatives

Postby BenKline » 13 Nov 2008, 17:19

So that confirms Anna Domencia Ranalli (Croce) as being Caroline's mother, and if she is Antonio's brother, that makes Anna D. R (Croce) as Antonio's mother as well.

Is there any sort of information or anything anywhere about Anna Domencia Ranalli's husband? I have Donato, but according to all of you(s) information; thats not correct.
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Re: Croce - Looking up Croce Relatives

Postby BenKline » 16 Nov 2008, 03:12

So that confirms Anna Domencia Ranalli (Croce) as being Caroline's mother, and if she is Antonio's brother, that makes Anna D. R (Croce) as Antonio's mother as well.

Is there any sort of information or anything anywhere about Anna Domencia Ranalli's husband? I have Donato, but according to all of you(s) information; thats not correct.
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Re: Croce - Looking up Croce Relatives

Postby vj » 16 Nov 2008, 15:37

BenKline wrote:Is there any sort of information or anything anywhere about Anna Domencia Ranalli's husband? I have Donato, but according to all of you(s) information; thats not correct.


pink67 wrote:Found this interesting document about your ancestor (possible Antonio's brother...)

U.S. Passport Applications, 1795-1925
about Vicenzo Croce
Name: Vicenzo Croce
Birth Date: May 1895
Birth Place: Montefino, Provincia, Terano, Italy
RESIDENCE: Palmyra, Penna, Pennsylvania
Passport Issue Date: 26 Jul 1919
Father Name: Donato Croce
Father's Birth Location: Montefino, Italy
Father's Residence: Dead
Passport Includes a Photo: Y
Source: Passport Applications, January 2, 1906 - March 31, 1925 (M1490)

page 1:
[img=http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/3708/crocevincenzopassportpaad0.th.jpg]

page 2: with photo
[img=http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/1876/crocevincenzopassportpavl6.th.jpg]

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Vincenzo's passport listed Donato as his father (deceased).
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Re: Croce - Looking up Croce Relatives

Postby BenKline » 17 Nov 2008, 04:21

Anyway to look up information on Donato?
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Re: Croce - Looking up Croce Relatives

Postby pink67 » 17 Nov 2008, 11:35

vj wrote:As suggested earlier in your post, you can order (rent) and view the microfilmed records for Montefino at your nearest Family History Center

film notes

Topic
Italy, Teramo, Montefino - Civil registration

Titles
Registri dello stato civile, 1866-1910 Montefino (Teramo).
Ufficio dello stato civile
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In case you aren’t familiar with the Famly History Center & Italian records

FamilySearch Home Page
Includes how to find your nearest local Family History Center

A helpful essay written by Trish, one of our forum members:
Steps for Finding Microfilm at the Family History Center

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Italian Record Research from the FamilySearch research guides:
Italy Research Outline
---

Three terrific books
to help you find, read & understand your records:

Italian Genealogical Records
How to Use Italian Civil, Ecclesiastical, &
Other Records in Family History Research

By Tafford R Cole
google book link

A Genealogist’s Guide to
Discovering Your Italian Ancestors
How to find and record your unique heritage
By Lynn Nelson
google book link

Finding Italian Roots
By John Philip Colletta, PhD
google book link


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