Searching Palombo/Valente from Detroit, MI

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Re: Searching Palombo/Valente from Detroit, MI

Postby adriana295 » 25 Jul 2009, 20:02

Got him. We didn't realise he died as my own grandfather died in 1994.

Yeah I'm having no luck with the others OR my fathers side :|

I'm starting to think they were never there during a Census year
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Re: Searching Palombo/Valente from Detroit, MI

Postby adriana295 » 25 Jul 2009, 21:49

Also is there a way to find a Maiden Name? I am trying to find out the name of my Great Aunt.
I know her maiden name was Cornacchia but we're not entirely sure what her first name was (possibly Antionetta)
She had a daughter called Grazia (Grace) and her married name is Grace Desilets (married John Desilets +1987) who I can find in searches but no wedding certificate.

She currently lives in Leominster, MA
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Re: Searching Palombo/Valente from Detroit, MI

Postby vj » 25 Jul 2009, 22:05

Valente family

adriana295 wrote:My other great grandfather is a little more of a mystery. His name was Pasquale Valente and lived in Detroit with his two sons Loreto (Larry) and Luciano. I know Luciano had a Deli/Store in Newark. NI and this is where the leads vanish. Larry died recently as far as I know and the information has stopped due to all the older generations in my family passing away. I know Pasquale died in a railing accident in the 1920's although I can't seem to find any written record of his death.


I looked at Loreto Valente's 1936 manifest again, if this is the correct Loreto he was joining his father Pasquale in Detroit. Are you sure your Pasquale died in the 1920's?

Is this correct?
1936 manifest
page 2

21 Dec 1936 SS Saturnia, Naples to NY
line 2

Loreto Valente 18 (abt 1918)
- single
- born in & last residence Villa Latina (Frosinone, Lazio)
- in Villa Latina, mother Loreta Rossi
- destination Detroit, MI
- not in US before
- joining father Pasquale at 3634 Russell Street
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Re: Searching Palombo/Valente from Detroit, MI

Postby adriana295 » 25 Jul 2009, 22:09

vj wrote:Valente family

adriana295 wrote:My other great grandfather is a little more of a mystery. His name was Pasquale Valente and lived in Detroit with his two sons Loreto (Larry) and Luciano. I know Luciano had a Deli/Store in Newark. NI and this is where the leads vanish. Larry died recently as far as I know and the information has stopped due to all the older generations in my family passing away. I know Pasquale died in a railing accident in the 1920's although I can't seem to find any written record of his death.


I looked at Loreto Valente's 1936 manifest again, if this is the correct Loreto he was joining his father Pasquale in Detroit. Are you sure your Pasquale died in the 1920's?

Is this correct?
1936 manifest
page 2

21 Dec 1936 SS Saturnia, Naples to NY
line 2

Loreto Valente 18 (abt 1918)
- single
- born in & last residence Villa Latina (Frosinone, Lazio)
- in Villa Latina, mother Loreta Rossi
- destination Detroit, MI
- not in US before
- joining father Pasquale at 3634 Russell Street


Cool i've never actually been able to find him, I only found Luciano who went over in 1920!!

There is still no record of Pasquales death :\

I'm asking my mum just now.... she was a late babe so doesnt know as much as my aunt and uncle... she thinks my nonno was in his 20s.... so that would be the 40's/50's.... She is sure she remembers being told he went just before War broke out and my grandfather was meant to follow next but he was signed up for the war instead. He then followed my gran to Glasgow, Scotland.

Argh the story changes every time from my family!!!
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Re: Searching Palombo/Valente from Detroit, MI

Postby vj » 25 Jul 2009, 22:24

possible 1920 manifest
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9 Feb 1920, SS Duca D'Aosta, Napoli to NY
line 16

Pasquale Valente 43 (abt 1876)
- USA returning
- last permanent residence USA (written in), Villa Latina
- in Villa Latina, wife Loreta
- destination Detroit MI
- in Michigan 1913-1917
- joining uncle Felice Pacitto at 76 S Joseph St
- born in Villa Latina
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Re: Searching Palombo/Valente from Detroit, MI

Postby adriana295 » 25 Jul 2009, 22:34

thats the man!! im just discovering my g-g-g grandparents were also in the states... that none of us knew
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Re: Searching Palombo/Valente from Detroit, MI

Postby vj » 25 Jul 2009, 22:48

for reference, Luciano's manifest

1920 manifest
page 2

09 Oct 1920 SS Dante Alighieri, Naples to NY
line 13

Luciano Valente 20 (abt 1900)
- returning resident
- single
- last residence USA (written in), Villa Latina
- in Villa Latina, mother Tossi (Rossi)
- destination Detroit MI
- in Michigan 1911-1917
- joining father Pasquale Valente at 676 Russell Street
- born in Liverpoli (Liverpool)
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Re: Searching Palombo/Valente from Detroit, MI

Postby adriana295 » 25 Jul 2009, 22:49

Yeah his mother was a Rossi. He was born in L/Pool!

Am I keeping you busy?!!? Sorry :|
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Re: Searching Palombo/Valente from Detroit, MI

Postby vj » 25 Jul 2009, 22:52

adriana295 wrote:... im just discovering my g-g-g grandparents were also in the states...


Antonio Valente joining son Pasquale in Detroit

1906 manifest

27 Apr 1906, SS Calabria, Naples to New York
line 29

Antonio Valente 54 (abt 1851)
- married
- last residence Villa Latina
- destination Detroit MI
- in Detroit 1902-1904
- joining son Pasquale at 17 Pierce Street

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Re: Searching Palombo/Valente from Detroit, MI

Postby adriana295 » 25 Jul 2009, 23:04

Thats him, his wife was Lucia Cecilia
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Re: Searching Palombo/Valente from Detroit, MI

Postby vj » 25 Jul 2009, 23:24

1913 manifest
page 2

30 May 1913, SS France, Le Havre to NY
lines 4-5

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Pasquale Valente 32 (abt 1880)
- married
- last residence Villa Latina
- in Villa Latina, wife Loreta Rossi
- destination Detroit, MI
- in Detroit 1904-1911
- joining father Ant. Valente at 709 Riopelle Street
- born in Villa Latina
son Luciano Valente 11 (abt 1901)
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Re: Searching Palombo/Valente from Detroit, MI

Postby adriana295 » 25 Jul 2009, 23:29

yup, I have the Ellis Manifests but your reading is better than mine!!! I think it was Russell St

We're baffled as why my g-g-grandfather went to the States when his wife stayed in Italy. I do have his death as 1927 meaning he must have returned to Italy unless the person making the family tree didnt realise that he was in the States.
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Re: Searching Palombo/Valente from Detroit, MI

Postby vj » 25 Jul 2009, 23:44

Luciano?

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Name: Lucian Valente
SSN: 372-34-xxxx
Last Residence: 48127 Dearborn Heights, Wayne, Michigan, United States of America
Born: 19 Sep 1900
Died: Dec 1969
State (Year) SSN issued: Michigan (1952)
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Re: Searching Palombo/Valente from Detroit, MI

Postby vj » 26 Jul 2009, 00:17

Palombo/Cornacchia

adriana295 wrote:My great grandfather (maternal) was Crecenzo Palombo and I have managed to find his birth (born Phili, PA) and death certificate (Detroit, MI) although it stops there. I know he was living in Detroit with his parents Nunzio Palombo and Benedetta Panetta and that he had a sister. This is where the information stops as he died in the States while his wife and children remained in Italy


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1907 manifest
page 2

25 Jul 1907, SS Germania, Naples to NY
line 9

Crescenzo Palombo 17 (abt 1890)
- single
- last residence Villa Latina
- in Villa Latina, sister Filomena
- destination Detroit MI
- not in US before
- joining father Nunziato Palombo
- born in Villa Latina
---

1911 manifest
page 2

21 April 1911, SS Cleveland, Naples to NY
lines 18-19

Crescenzo Palombo 20 (abt 1890)
- single
- last residence Villa Latina
- in Villa Latina, father Nunziato Palombo
- destination Detroit MI
- in Michigan 1907-1909
- joining brother-in-law Antonio Valente
- born in Villa Latina

sister Angela Palombo Valente 24 (abt 1886)
- married
- in Michigan 1900-1909
- joining husband Antonio Valente
- born in Villa Latina
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1914
page 2

29 Jul 1914 SS San Guglielmo, Naples to NY
line 7

Crescenzo Palombo 24 (abt 1890)
- married
- last residence Villa Latina
- in Villa Latina, wife Leonarda Cornacchia
- destination Detroit, MI
- in Detroit 1910-1913
- joining brother Francesco
- born in Villa Latina
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Re: Searching Palombo/Valente from Detroit, MI

Postby adriana295 » 26 Jul 2009, 09:02

vj wrote:Palombo/Cornacchia

adriana295 wrote:My great grandfather (maternal) was Crecenzo Palombo and I have managed to find his birth (born Phili, PA) and death certificate (Detroit, MI) although it stops there. I know he was living in Detroit with his parents Nunzio Palombo and Benedetta Panetta and that he had a sister. This is where the information stops as he died in the States while his wife and children remained in Italy


possible manifests

1907 manifest
page 2

25 Jul 1907, SS Germania, Naples to NY
line 9

Crescenzo Palombo 17 (abt 1890)
- single
- last residence Villa Latina
- in Villa Latina, sister Filomena
- destination Detroit MI
- not in US before
- joining father Nunziato Palombo
- born in Villa Latina
---

1911 manifest
page 2

21 April 1911, SS Cleveland, Naples to NY
lines 18-19

Crescenzo Palombo 20 (abt 1890)
- single
- last residence Villa Latina
- in Villa Latina, father Nunziato Palombo
- destination Detroit MI
- in Michigan 1907-1909
- joining brother-in-law Antonio Valente
- born in Villa Latina

sister Angela Palombo Valente 24 (abt 1886)
- married
- in Michigan 1900-1909
- joining husband Antonio Valente
- born in Villa Latina
---

1914
page 2

29 Jul 1914 SS San Guglielmo, Naples to NY
line 7

Crescenzo Palombo 24 (abt 1890)
- married
- last residence Villa Latina
- in Villa Latina, wife Leonarda Cornacchia
- destination Detroit,
- in Detroit 1910-191311
- joining brother Francesco
- born in Villa Latina


Hi Crescenzo was born in Phildelphia, PA , 11 November 1890
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