I didn't know that Vincenzo went back to Italy. His petition for naturalization sounds correct. His wife was Giovanni and was born in Frigento. At the time they had three children, Angela, Giovanni, Lina. later in NY they had two more children Louis and Frances.
Even his witnesses names sound familiar.
This is amazing, I hope you can find records for Carmine tomorrow. It must be late, so good night. Wonderful!
Pretty sure this is Giovanni and Angela Forgione's 1910 census
Address is similar to 1906 manifest - 2342 Pacific Street
Angela had 3 children, only two still living - probably Vincenzo and Pasqualina
Vincenzo still at home, Pasqualina married to Michele Ceglia
Note: James is a common 'Americanization' of Vincenzo (nickname Cenzo =James)
Home in 1910:
2343-5 Pacific Street, rents
Brooklyn Ward 24, Kings, New York
head John Folmcci 46, abt 1864 IT
- married 23 years, abt 1887
- immig 1906, Al
- shoveler, railroad
wife Angela Folmcci 46, abt 1864 IT
- 3 children born, 2 children living
- immig 1906
son James Folmcci 9, abt 1901 IT
- immig 1906
John Falemo 29
Frank Esposito 33
James Calucci 27
Salvator Bertine 37
Giuseppe Cerone 31
Do not know the name Folmcci. Was it not spelled correctly? Because other info seems correct. I remember my father saying that his grandfather worked for the railroad. I know for sure that his grandfather Forgione is buried at Holy Cross Cemetery in Brooklyn. NY
My father told me that as a young boy, his grandfather and he would go to the cemetery and polish the grave stone. I go there now to pray for their souls. My grandmother Pasquelina Barbaro,(Ceglio, Forgione) my uncle Vincenzo (James) Forgione and his wife Giovanni are also their. Perhaps Carmine is there also.
Next time I travel to Brooklyn I must remember to look. Or perhaps you could find burial records for Holy Cross Cemetary in Brooklyn, NY.. Thanks again
Yes, Carmine Barbaro 13 Dec 1887 of 28 Marconi Place was my grandmother pasqulina's 2nd husband. I called Holy Cross Cemetery just a few minutes ago and found out that Carmine, my grandmothers husband is buried there. He passed away on August 20, 1946 (today would be his anniversary (how strange is that). They spelled his name Barbero (misspelled) and Pasquelina was spelled Barbere (misspelled)
I'm beginning to think that if Vincent Forgione and Carmine Forgione had gone back to Italy at some time, that perhaps Carmine died in Italy, because there seems to be record of him in NY.
Vincent Forgione, my grandmother's brother did live at 28 Ocean Place with his family, Wife Giovannia, daughters Angelina,Lena, Helen son John. later they had two more children a girl Frances and a boy Louis. If only we could find Carmine forgione. How wonderful !
Wow! That was really nice of Holy Cross to help you over the phone
I'm thinking that Carmine may have died before the 1910 census
(since Angela listed only two children living)
New York was a tough place to live at the turn of the century, especially for children
Neat coincidence for Carmine Barbaro today - shows he's not forgotten
I believe that you are correct, because I never knew that there was another brother, Carmine. I only knew my grandmother Pasquelina, grandfather Carmine Barbaro died when I was 3 years old and I knew her brother Vincent, my uncle Jim we would call him, his wife Jennie, we would call her and their 6 children. How wonderful it has been to locate so many of them. You will never know how much this means to me. THANKS
It is very interesting that I see the address 2358 Atlantic Avenue Brooklyn, NY listed here with the town of Gesualdo. My fiancee's great-grandfather Camillo Nitti from Gesualdo, lived at this address with his family from 1899 until his death in 1910, and some of the family still lvied there until 1913.
He was an grocer at this address until 1905 when he was listed as an undertaker.
Index to Petitions for Naturalization filed in New York City, 1792-1989 Camillo Nitti County Court, Kings County, NY Date Filed: Jul 24 1899 Address: 2358 Atlantic Ave, Bklyn, NY
1901 City Directory Nitte Camillo, grocer, 2358 Atlantic Ave
1904 City Directory Nitti Camello, grocer, 2358 Atlantic Ave
1905 NY Census on 2358 Atlantic Ave Camillo Nitti 55 b. Italy. Undertaker
1910 Death Record Camillo Nitti Died: February 14, 1910 Location: 2358 Atlantic Avenue Buried at Holy Cross Cemetery
1913 - City Directory Harry Mormone - 2358 Atlantic Ave - Undertaker
There is a connection with this address and Gesualdo, Italy.