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Re: Martinis from Province of Catanzaro

Postby naillady4jm » 04 Nov 2006, 22:52

vj wrote:2nd trip? Martinis Family
possible 1913 manifest
pg 2
27 Dec 1913 SS Calabria Naples to NY
lines 1-5
- Orazio Martinis, 34 (abt 1879), mason
last residence Guardavalle
in Italy father Nicola
final destination Herndon, Wyoming Co, WV
joining f-i-l Tommaso Gard????
(note: other name written opposite
children's names pg 2)

born in Guardavalle

(note on manifest: 2nd wife?)
- Amelia Barlacqna, 18? (abt 1895)
born in Guardavalle

(note on manifest: child. first wife?)
- Nicola Martinis, 4?
born in WV
- Maria Martinis, 6
born in WV
- Michelina? Martinis, 8mos?
born in Guardavalle




Called mom and she said this is correct.He was married twice first time to a Mary,and Irish woman and she died and he went back to Italy from West Virginia,and married my grand-mother Amelia,a beautiful little Italian woman.How I miss her smile and kisses. Gosh I fogot how many kids he had when you start throwing in the ones from first marriage.You made my mom`s day and she kept asking more about her mom and I don`t think she understands how hard it is for me not knowing the knowledge of how to find genealogy.You guys are a blessing.
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Re: Martinis from Province of Catanzaro

Postby naillady4jm » 04 Nov 2006, 22:59

vj wrote:Helen,
Thanks for getting back with us.
Please let us know what your mother thinks!
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re: Orazio on 1913 manifest
Mis-spellings were not unusual on manifests.
One possibility:
If the person couldn't read or write they couldn't
check the spelling of their name on the manifest.
Not sure what the 'americanized version' of your
grandfather's name would have been.
Perhaps a census will help.
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possible brother:
1901 manifest
18 Mar 1901 SS California Naples to NY
line 25
Raffaele Martinis, 24, married
mason
last residence Guardavalle
joining brother Agazo Martinis in Philadelphia (same location as 1900 manifest)




This was his brother Ralph.Mom confirmed this.

So I believe that Orazio must be him just spelled totally different.
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Re: Martinis from Province of Catanzaro

Postby naillady4jm » 04 Nov 2006, 22:59

vj wrote:Helen,
Thanks for getting back with us.
Please let us know what your mother thinks!
vj
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re: Orazio on 1913 manifest
Mis-spellings were not unusual on manifests.
One possibility:
If the person couldn't read or write they couldn't
check the spelling of their name on the manifest.
Not sure what the 'americanized version' of your
grandfather's name would have been.
Perhaps a census will help.
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possible brother:
1901 manifest
18 Mar 1901 SS California Naples to NY
line 25
Raffaele Martinis, 24, married
mason
last residence Guardavalle
joining brother Agazo Martinis in Philadelphia (same location as 1900 manifest)




This was his brother Ralph.Mom confirmed this.

So I believe that Orazio must be him just spelled totally different.
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Re: Martinis from Province of Catanzaro

Postby naillady4jm » 04 Nov 2006, 23:08

VJ, James was her brother,I think she said Eugene was a cousin,son of Ralph I believe.God,I`m going to have to organize all this lol.Again,you guys are the best.
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Re: Martinis from Province of Catanzaro

Postby vj » 04 Nov 2006, 23:36

Helen,
"she kept asking more about her mom"
here's a possible trip back from Italy for her mother & siblings
(probably the correct spelling of her mom's maiden name)
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1921 manifest

19 Apr 1921 SS Canada Naples to NY
lines 6-10
- Amalia Bevilacqua, 27 (abt 1894)
Naturalized: County Blair (prob PA) 21 December 1913
address in US Camden, NJ
- Nicola Martino, 12, b Philadelphia 15 Mar 1909
- Michelina Martino, 8 (abt 1913)
- Raffaele Martino, 6, b Philadelphia 9? Mar 1915
- Angelina Martino, 3, b Philadelphia 22 Nov 1917
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Re: Martinis from Province of Catanzaro

Postby naillady4jm » 04 Nov 2006, 23:59

VJ, i HAVE HER SS APPLICATION,they to spelled it different.They had Amelia Beveloque.But how mom pronounced it was close to Bevilacqua.Can`t imagine being married at 15 to a man 16 years her senior and with 4 kids to boot.What a woman she was.Any info on her mom`s name I only have the last three letters which is -----ita.Ink got spilled.
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Re: Martinis from Province of Catanzaro

Postby vj » 05 Nov 2006, 00:35

Helen,
your g-grandmother's surname?
That's a tough one.
Answer for sure in Italian records ...

In the meantime, did any of your grandmother's
brother's or sisters come to the US.
Possible their mother's name could be listed on
their manifest as 'relative in Italy'
vj

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possible grandmother's brother/cousin?
1942 pg 1
pg 2
U.S. World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942
Name: Eugene Rosario Bavilacgua
Birth Date: 9 Jan 1897
Residence: Camden, New Jersey
Birth: Guardavalle, Italy
Race: White
Roll: WW2_2275649
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Re: Martinis from Province of Catanzaro

Postby naillady4jm » 05 Nov 2006, 01:18

I was just going to post.grand-mom Amelia or AMALIA had a brother named Eugene.,and one named Albert. The one Eugene you had that died in Utah was mom`s brother.They called him James. Making sence now.I just remember his barber shop when I was little.I think he died before my teens.

Grand-moms mom`s name was also Amelia 0r Amalia.Still no last name.Mom dosen`t know that.You should hear the excitement in her voice everytime I get an e-mail.Mom lives in Florida.
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Re: Martinis from Province of Catanzaro

Postby vj » 05 Nov 2006, 01:40

Helen, will look for the brother's manifests.
May have their mother's name...
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Re: Martinis from Province of Catanzaro

Postby naillady4jm » 05 Nov 2006, 01:43

VJ,your sooooooooooooooooo good.
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Re: Martinis from Province of Catanzaro

Postby vj » 05 Nov 2006, 02:11

Helen, thanks :D , we're all happy to help out you
& your mom!
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Wonder who the two uncles travelled with?
Eugene's 1930 census in Camden states immig 1900??
(census records are notoriously incorrect on the details)
He would have been 3?
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Your mom's uncle Eugene's WW1 card?
also in Prince George's County, VA
ww1
Name: Eugenis Bevelacqua
Birth: 9 Jan 1897
Birth: Italy
Residence: Not Stated, Prince George, Virginia
Other: Prince George County

& SSDI
Name: Eugene Bevilacqua
Birth: 9 Jan 1897
Death: 18 Mar 1990
Maple Shade, Burlington, New Jersey, United States
Civil: New Jersey
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Re: Martinis from Province of Catanzaro

Postby vj » 05 Nov 2006, 02:58

g-grandfather Raffaele Bevilacqua?
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g-uncle?? Eugene joining father Raffaele in NY
1912 manifest pg 1
pg 2
6 Jun 1912 SS Sant'Anna Naples to NY
line 18
Eugenio Bevilaegua, 14? (abt 1898)
single, tailor
last residence Guardavalle
in Italy uncle Giuseppe Bevilacqua
going to NY
joining father Raffaele 200 Grand? Street NY
born in Guardavalle

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1913 Manifest again, Martinis Family
1913 page 2
appears g-grandfather Raffaele was in US
opposite lines 3-5 under columns 18-21
"to father-in-law Raffaele Bevilacqua"
can't decipher location
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Re: Martinis from Province of Catanzaro

Postby naillady4jm » 05 Nov 2006, 03:54

yea,I have a Giuseppe in the family.I thought every Italian family had at lease one.I`m confused about this one.I got to talk to mom again.You are my guardian angel.
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Re: Martinis from Province of Catanzaro

Postby vj » 05 Nov 2006, 04:04

Helen, sorry I just edited the post above your reply :!:
Abt g-grandfather Raffaele
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Re: Martinis from Province of Catanzaro

Postby naillady4jm » 05 Nov 2006, 20:11

So far the Raffaele was her dad`s name and had a brother named that also.Talked to mom dosen`t know her grandmoms name on the Bavilacqua side.
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