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Re: looking for Briscione

Postby jcsm400 » 25 Jan 2007, 17:30

Some of these may interest you.

New York City Death Records Search
1891-1948

Surname Given Name Age Month Day Year Certificate
Number County Soundex
Bresciono Salvatore 71 y Nov 4 1947 9461 Queens
Bresciani Ercole 75 y May 31 1947 11509 Kings B625
Bresciani Isacio 4 h May 25 1920 17762 Manhattan B625
Bresciani Leandro 44 y Dec 4 1924 29341 Manhattan B625
Bresciani Marino Jr 1 m Nov 19 1935 24316 Manhattan B625
Bresciani Mary 65 y Nov 2 1944 23303 Manhattan B625
Bresciani Stefano 60 y July 8 1940 14895 Manhattan B625
Bresciano Antoinette 66 y May 1 1947 4032 Queens B625
Bresciano Antonina 47 y Sep 4 1944 17724 Kings B625
Bresciano Josephine 20 y Apr 12 1936 770 Richmond B625
Bresciano Leon 17 y Jun 25 1930 15909 Manhattan B625
Bresciano Louis 24 y Nov 14 1947 24506 Manhattan B625
Bresciano Salvatore 2 y Mar 9 1941 1919 Queens B625
Bresciano Vincent 6 d May 21 1914 10775 Kings

http://www.italiangen.org/NYCDeathSearch.asp


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Re: looking for Briscione

Postby misbris » 14 Feb 2007, 21:42

Thanks for all the help so far.

I have identified 2 Salvatore Brisciones who I know are related. One is a son of Pasquale, born in 1908. The other was born in New York in 1916 and died in 1970. Any further information on either of these names would be greatly appreciated. I believe these two men are cousins to each other and the nephews of Angelo.
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Re: looking for Briscione

Postby misbris » 02 Mar 2007, 03:05

Some of my research has paid off. I have found descendents of Gabriel Briscione(b circa 1856) I have found ship manifests but cannot confirm if Gabriel is from Contursi. Can anyone help find out where Gabriel originally came from? He or a namesake travelled fairly often. Any help would be greatly appreciated. :)
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Re: looking for Briscione

Postby misbris » 23 Mar 2007, 02:34

I am following all the great advice given here, but I have a few questions.

Why do some names appear in certain censuses and not in others? For example Angelo Briscione's family appears in 1930, but I can"t find it in 1920 even though he emigrated in 1910. His brother Pasquale appears in 1920. but the family is not listed in 1930 even though I found marriage records for one of his sons in the '30's?

Is there any way of finding out if someone returned to Italy and when? Was it unusual? I have 2 Ellis Island entry records for Pasquale.

If town of residence is not listed on a ship's manifest, is there any other way of finding it?

Does anyone know if Union Hill is a town or section of New York or New Jersey? I can't find it. Any info will be greatly appreciated :?
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Re: looking for Briscione

Postby VaDeb » 23 Mar 2007, 02:54

Just a comment on the census. It is very possible the person you are looking for is in the census, they are just "hidden". The name could have been written with terrible handwriting and thus indexed incorrectly. Or the person collecting the information could not understand your ancestor and wrote down incorrect information. Some census records are faded and hard to read. It can take some creative searching techiniques to find a family at times.

Sometimes it takes knowing where they lived and going page by page reading the families and you will find "yours". Then you will get a good laugh on how it is spelled or indexed.

It is also possible that their street or neighborhood was missed by a census taker.

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Re: looking for Briscione

Postby jcsm400 » 23 Mar 2007, 04:29

1920 United States Federal Census

Name: Angelo Brascione
[Angelo Broscious]
Home in 1920: Newark Ward 10, Essex, New Jersey
Age: 39 years
Estimated birth year: abt 1881
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Josephine
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of Immigration: 1911
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 170
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Angelo Brascione 39
Josephine Brascione 37
Mary Brascione 14
Florence Brascione 12
Amelia Brascione 10
John Brascione 7
Mildred Brascione 5
Rose Brascione 2 4/12
Albert Brascione 3/12

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Re: looking for Briscione

Postby jcsm400 » 23 Mar 2007, 04:35

Some sources for town of birth information:

1. Birth records of children born in the US. Also baptismal records.
2. Naturalization record
3. Death record.
4. SS application
5. WWII draft registration

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Re: looking for Briscione

Postby misbris » 24 Mar 2007, 00:29

Thanks for the info and thanks for that census citation. I tried all kinds of combinations of spellings but somehow missed that one. I searched again and I found another Briscione I was looking for, same misspelling, in a different town and county. Amazing.

How do I go about searching census records by street or page by page? Can it be done online? I have access to the Library version of Ancestry.com

Regarding town of birth information, I have not found that on any other records. Most merely say Italy. I am trying to find out if Gabriel Briscione is a relative of my Angelo. I will write to Contursi, but before I do, I want to have as much information as possible.

I can't tell you how much I appreciate all of the help I have been given, you all are wonderful. :D
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Re: looking for Briscione

Postby Biff83 » 08 Apr 2008, 19:30

US Passport Applications for Gabriele Briscione
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Name: Gabriele Briscione
Birth Date: 17 Jan 1856
Birth Place: Contursi, Italy
Residence: Town of Union, New Jersey
Passport Issue Date: 4 Apr 1913

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Name: Gabriele Briscione
Birth Date: 25 Nov 1856
Birth Place: Naples, Italy
Residence: Union Hall, NJ
Passport Issue Date: 29 Mar 1924
Father Name: Salvatore Briscione
Father's Birth Location: Italy
Father's Residence: Deceased

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Re: looking for Briscione

Postby Biff83 » 08 Apr 2008, 20:08

Gabriele Briscione Naturalization Record (thumbnail from footnote.com)

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Re: looking for Briscione

Postby misbris » 08 Apr 2008, 20:20

Baci, Baci, Baci,

Biff, you are incredible. :!: I have been in touch with Gabriel's ggson and can't wait to share this information with him. His family all changed their first names, so I had one heck of a time figuring them out.
I still don't know the exact family relationship, but judging by the dates, Gabriel was probably my grandfather's uncle. Tony's ggmother might be his sister. I'm still digging through notes.

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Re: looking for Briscione

Postby Biff83 » 08 Apr 2008, 20:32

Hi MJ. Glad I could help :D !

Let me know if there are any other records you'd like me to look for.

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Re: looking for Briscione

Postby misbris » 20 Apr 2008, 22:59

I could use a little help on these records from Castle Garden. I have searched by Ship and date but I can't find the manifests. I don't know what I am doing wrong. I even tried just by initials, but no luck.

LUIGIA BRISCIONE Occupation CHILD, YOUNGSTER
Age 3
Sex M
Literacy N
Ship CALIFORNIA
Arrived 5 Jan 1893
Origin ITALY
Port NAPLES

and

PIETRO BRISCIONE Occupation WORKER, WORKWOMAN, WORKMAN
Age 33
Sex M
Literacy N
Ship CALABRIA
Arrived 13 May 1905
Origin ITALY
Port HAVRE
Last Residence
Destination 7788

Thanks,

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Re: looking for Briscione

Postby vj » 21 Apr 2008, 13:56

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/4230/1893mi9.jpg
1893 was transcribed backwards on ancestry

Can't find Pietro
No doubt Castle Garden has it correctly
Tried ancestry and looked at all the names
on the ship on Ellis (only 1049 names).
Can't find the transcription error.
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Re: looking for Briscione

Postby misbris » 21 Apr 2008, 14:18

Thanks vj.
I thought I was losing it.! Too bad that there isn't more info in these early manifests. But I have another name to add to my "unknown" list.
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