Has anyone ever heard this expression?

As a nation state, Italy has emerged only in 1871. Until then the country was politically divided into a large number of independant cities, provinces and islands. The currently available evidences point out to a dominant Etruscan, Greek and Roman cultural influence on today's Italians.
95 posts • Page 7 of 71 ... 3, 4, 5, 6, 7

Re: Has anyone ever heard this expression?

Postby blissiorio » 07 Dec 2010, 18:20

misbris wrote:Hi,

We pronounced it something like "stata zitta"
My mother still says that to me when she wants me to shut up :-)
Researching surnames:
[In Teramo area] - Core / Fani / Venanzi / Secone / di Luca / Vannoni / Leteo / Bianchini / Cistola / Felicione / di Marco / Casalena / Romantini / Cintioli / di Francesco / Caponi / Foschi / Traini / d'Ascenzo / Ciare / Ciavattini

[In Campagna and Eboli] - Iorio / Adelizzi
User avatar
blissiorio
Rookie
Rookie
 
Posts: 30
Joined: 06 Dec 2010, 20:18
Location: New Jersey

Re: Has anyone ever heard this expression?

Postby aliza24 » 07 Dec 2010, 18:31

This is incredible! I never imagined that asking a question about an expression would lead to 7 pages in this thread! Fantastic!!

I love hearing everyone share their expressions and memories.

AND...to top it all off I got the answer to my question, one that's puzzled me for years! (Thanks, Suanj)
User avatar
aliza24
Veteran
Veteran
 
Posts: 247
Joined: 30 Jun 2007, 00:00
Location: Houston, TX

Re: Has anyone ever heard this expression?

Postby montclaire » 13 Apr 2011, 20:28

blissiorio wrote:
misbris wrote:Hi,

We pronounced it something like "stata zitta"
My mother still says that to me when she wants me to shut up :-)



My wife's family is from Sicily and they pronouce it STET-SA ZEET
User avatar
montclaire
Veteran
Veteran
 
Posts: 138
Joined: 16 Aug 2008, 15:01

Re: Has anyone ever heard this expression?

Postby PippoM » 14 Apr 2011, 08:19

I'm just reading this interesting discussion.
I hope I can explain some expression, or at least I suppose to:
My great grandmother was from Sicily. She used to always say something like: mangiadigabba!

It was kinda like "mamma mia!," usually said in response to something really frustrating happens. She'd throw her hands up in the air while saying it.


I think it should be "mannaggia!", a typical popular expression of all southern Italy, deriving from a dialectal corruption of "male ne abbia" ("may it have damage"). It is generally used alone or in conjunction with other words to lighten or strengthen the effect (for instance "mannaggia la miseria" o "mannaggia a capa tua", or in some hard blasphemy)

The phrase I remember was "manga pa gab" which means something like without thinking or not using you head.



This should be "manc' p''a capa" (southern dialect, expecially neapolitan; in Italian it wouls be "nemmeno per la testa") and means something like "it doesn't even cross my mind"; for instance, if you are asked to do something you absolutely don't want to, you answer "manc' p''a capa" to say you never will. Or, if you told someone to do something, when you state he/she has not done it yet, you say the same.
I hope you could understand me.

As to
cicci camana calla
callla camana cicci

I've never heard it, but it sounds to me like:
Ciccio ca mana calla,
cala ca mana, Ciccio!
Ciccio con la mano calda,
cala con la mano, Ciccio!
Ciccio, who have a hot hand,
put your hand down, Ciccio!

But it wouldn't have the meaning Aliza explained.
Giuseppe "Pippo" Moccaldi

Certificate requests and genealogical searches in Italy.
Translation of your old documents and letters.
Legal assistance for your Italian citizenship.
User avatar
PippoM
Master
Master
 
Posts: 1324
Joined: 25 Aug 2004, 00:00
Location: Roma, Italia

Re: Has anyone ever heard this expression?

Postby Julo » 22 Apr 2011, 20:44

aliza24 wrote:My family's been in the US for a few generations. We still have some old expressions that have been passed down that we say and there's one that I've always been curious about.

I don't know how you would spell it- or even if it's been changed over the years- so I'm curious if anyone else has ever heard something similar.

It goes something like this (written as it would sound it in English):

Cheech kah-mah-nah kah-lah
Kah-lah kah-mah-nah cheech

Or an approximate Italian spelling:

cicci camana calla
callla camana cicci

It's supposed to be the equivalent of "the pot calling the kettle black"

As in- if someone who is short calls someone else short you say "cicci camana calla, calla camana cicci!"

FYI- My people were from the Alife area in Caserta. A little NE of Naples.

If anyone's ever heard something like this I'd love to hear from you.


I don't think this saying has nothing to do with pots and kettles.
It may simply mean:

Ciccio comanda Carlo
Carlo comanda a Ciccio

Which translates to:

Frank gives orders to Carl
Carl gives orders to Frank

It's basically a saying that describes delegating someone else to do your work.

Happy Easter to all !
User avatar
Julo
Rookie
Rookie
 
Posts: 61
Joined: 31 Mar 2006, 00:00

Previous

95 posts • Page 7 of 71 ... 3, 4, 5, 6, 7

Return to Italian History & Culture

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest

Copyright © 2014. www.ItalianGenealogy.com.