Women and surnames

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Re: Women and surnames

Postby Sirena » 04 Sep 2007, 21:51

Then you have to add "de" and his last name......talk about long names
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Re: Women and surnames

Postby carinthiangirl » 13 Apr 2009, 15:27

in Spain always two names for the child - one part from father and one from mother. when a woman marries she still has her maidenname, never has her husband´s name.
if you marry a spanish man in Spain you still have your maidenname for ever :o)
example: actor Penelope Cruz. her correct name is Penelope Cruz Sanchez
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pen%C3%A9lope_Cruz
Penélope Cruz Sánchez was born in Alcobendas, Madrid, Spain, the daughter of Encarna Sánchez, a hairdresser and personal manager, and Eduardo Cruz, a retailer and auto mechanic.
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Re: Women and surnames

Postby Squigy » 10 Oct 2009, 06:31

I wasn't aware of the fact Italian women kept their maiden name. That explains why on many immigration records, my female ancestors use their maiden names. It made things so much easier, as finding maiden names can be hard. I have been trying to find an Irish ancestors maiden for a while now.
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Re: Women and surnames

Postby DonnaPellegrin » 10 Oct 2009, 12:50

It's a system that definitly has its merits. I agree, it makes things much easier in genealogy.
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Re: Women and surnames

Postby nuccia » 10 Oct 2009, 14:17

I have always used my maiden name and I don't regret it today at all but while it's easier for genealogical purposes it makes a lot of other things more difficult some times.

I found out recently though that even if a woman adopts her husbands name at marriage it is not really her last name unless she formally changes it in a court - she only assumes it. It is accepted on documents though.
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Re: Women and surnames

Postby PeterTimber » 10 Oct 2009, 15:20

Couples in many spanish speaking countries in South America give their children both their father's last name and their mothers maiden name to preserve both families names. When marrying a woman has the OPTION of keeping all her names and adding her husbands last name (like you see sometimes as "maria Fulana-rodriguez de Gonzalez) or dropping her mother's maiden name. =Peter=
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Re: Women and surnames

Postby DonnaPellegrin » 10 Oct 2009, 19:43

I've always used my maiden name also. I decided to do this long before I discovered that it was the norm for my female ancestors. While I am definitely swimming against the current here in today's midwest, it makes me happy to know that I am following a very old Italian tradition.

The very famous Marilyn vos Savant, who is in the Guiness World Book of Records for having the highest IQ, decided to use her mother's last name, vos Savant. She wrote in her magazine column, "When enough women keep their surnames throughout life and pass them on to their daughters for life, we will witness an improvement in the stature and independence of women the likes of which has not been seen since women got the vote."

A bit off topic, but still an interesting idea. :)
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Re: Women and surnames

Postby PeterTimber » 15 Oct 2009, 17:35

My wife (she who is always right and never wrong) says that Savant's concept of independence did not take into consideration, children,cleaning, cooking,ironing etc and a job in order to keep her independence which she characterizes as an illusion. Her opinion about independence is not to work outside of the home and demand excellence in goods and services from her spouse, lover and transients...names can be used as a medium of exchange. =Peter=
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