Orphan visa

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Re: Orphan visa

Postby Anna7841 » 29 May 2010, 21:16

Thanks, but I am sure he died in 1951. I think I did at some point come across a social sec for him, so I will request the copy. That is a great suggestion, I hadn't heard of that before.--Ann
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Re: Orphan visa

Postby Tessa78 » 29 May 2010, 21:19

OK, here is a manifest for Antonio Doddato, 22, arriving 1898, NY, passage paid by his brother, going to brother Girolamo in Brooklyn, NY

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0013

There may have been a big "falling-out" between the brothers. In 1900, your grandfather is out of Brooklyn, and with a name change. I agree, however, that many changed their names to make it easier to get jobs and "fit in."

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Re: Orphan visa

Postby Tessa78 » 29 May 2010, 21:20

Oh, I forgot to mention...lists town as Ottati...

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Re: Orphan visa

Postby Anna7841 » 29 May 2010, 21:24

Now, that is very cool! I never would have figured that out myself! I am so excited,thank you so much!--Ann
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Re: Orphan visa

Postby Tessa78 » 29 May 2010, 21:53

Here is the address to write for birth (nati) and death (morti) records. Ottati is in Salerno Province. Write the address as shown.

Ufficio dello Stato Civile
Via 24 Maggio, 53
84020 Ottati (SA)
ITALY


Be sure to write in Italian. Here is a form letter generator...
http://circolocalabrese.org/resources/l ... civile.asp

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Re: Orphan visa

Postby Anna7841 » 29 May 2010, 22:02

Again, thank you very much for the help. I am just starting out investigating the family history, and you really gave me great ideas when I had come to a standstill on what to do next. Eventually, I will let you know how it all turns out!--Ann
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Re: Orphan visa

Postby vj » 29 May 2010, 22:12

Hi!
Brother Antonio's possible marriage record
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Name Marriage Date Certificate Number County
Coddato Antonio Jan 3 1904 396 (1904) Kings
Rouo Teresina Jan 3 1904 396 (1904) Kings
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Re: Orphan visa

Postby PeterTimber » 30 May 2010, 00:05

XDear Anna here is alternative to obtain his social security record over the internet thru your computer.

you can make your request on the internet for his social security form SS-5 and make your payment with a credit card. Go to this website
www.ssa.gov/foia/html/foia_guide.htm and go down to "MAKE YOUR REQUEST ON LINE"

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Re: Orphan visa

Postby johnnyonthespot » 30 May 2010, 12:37

Ann, a couple of points...

"Girolamo" is one of only two common masculine Italian names beginning with Gir; the other being Girardo.

As to the occupation, laborer, the manifest has a column labeled "Calling". Something is written in the first line and then dittoed through the rest of the page. If it does say "Laborer" (clearly it does mot, at least not in english), then everyone on that page was such, including women and children of all ages. I find this suspicious, to say the least. :)
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Re: Orphan visa

Postby Anna7841 » 30 May 2010, 19:49

Yes,I noticed that this whole manifest seems to have less info than many others that I have looked at. It also looks like it was filled out with less care than others I have seen . It does seem that the first name could be only one of a couple, and even Giralmo, I have not seen as much as other more common Italian names. That was a definite help in finding info.
Now, on his marriage certificate, he says he was born in Italy (and, I do think he was, and that the manifest I found for him, and later his brother , is for my family members). But on every census after his marriage, he says he was born here. I can't find a naturalization record. Did find a draft card for WWI, although he was 44 , wasn't that a bit old for a draft card? At around the same time, I think he was beginning to get involved in politics, and was a representative of his local city ward. He must have been voting, I would think. Is it possible that he was never naturalized and no one ever checked up on it?--Ann
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Re: Orphan visa

Postby johnnyonthespot » 30 May 2010, 22:36

Ann,

From http://friendsnas.org/pdf_files/militar ... equest.pdf

"...had to have been born between Sept. 12, 1872 and Sept. 12, 1900 to be eligible for the draft."

American citizens were listed in a different section of ship's manifests, all by themselves; most such manifests will include the citizen's passport number.
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Re: Orphan visa

Postby giovanni marino » 27 Dec 2013, 22:07

sono di Ottati e mi chiamo Giovanni Marino. il cognome Doddato è originario di Ottati e questo in tutto il mondo. Se vuoi puoi scrivermi che ti do tutte notizie che desideri. il cognome VESSA ed il Cognome Doddato sono di Ottati. Il nome Felice(tuo nonno)è rimasto ai discendenti di Ottati. Felice era un uomo alto e grosso e pertanto li chiamavano <dei felicioni> come ancora oggi. Anche dei miei cugini
portano il cognome Doddato e sono di Ottati. Io abito a Pistoia ma ho anche casa ad Ottati dove vado per 3 o 4 mesi all'anno. Ho fatto un kibro con tutti gli ottatesi che sono andati in America dal 18792 al 1924 e d adesso sto facendo l'anagrafe del Comune per individuare i discendenti. Sul sito c'era un signore che cercava di VERTUCCIO ... di Ottati; se puoi(io non conosco l'inglese) digli che i Vertuccio vivono a Ottati. Io conosco Nicola Vertuccio ed ho conosciuto Vertuccio Nicola, padre di Nicola, ma è morto da tanti anni. Auguri ed a presto risentirci
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