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Mag. before a name.

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Does anyone know the meaning of Mag. before a name?

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What type of record is this?

Are you certain the last letter is a "g' ?
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From Catholic Encyclopedia
Abbreviations in Ecclesiastical records...

Mag. — Magister ("Master")

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http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01022a.htm

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The name appears in a book: Mag. Girolamo Leggio e Capitano de Sciacca.
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Yes, that appears to be it.

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Mag. is usually magister yes, but I also encountered it in the meaning of "magnifico", what seems to be an indication that the person is somewhat higher in rank than the medium.
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In this case, having near a "capitano" too, the word is "maggiore" (I think in english can be translated as major general).
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Lucap wrote:In this case, having near a "capitano" too, the word is "maggiore" (I think in english can be translated as major general).
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So, to be clear, the phrase is speaking of two people, Major General Girolamo Leggio AND Captain (no first name) de Sciacca?

Or, did the original poster leave out the accent on the è making the phrase Major General Girolamo Leggio IS Captain of (the forces of) Sciacca (a large comune in the province of Agrigento)?

e = and
è = is

Correct?

PS: On a curious note, the Italian telephone directory lists 1,661 Sciacca's spread throughout Italy, only one (!) of whom is actually in Comune di Sciacca - out of nearly 41,000 population. 8O
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Good observation Carmine :-D

And I love your "curiosities" ;-)

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Tessa78 wrote:Good observation Carmine :-D

And I love your "curiosities" ;-)

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Here is the complete text:

Leggio - Un Mag. Girolamo è Capitano de Sciacca, e fu fatto uccidere da Don Giacomo Perolloa arbitro della citta tra il 1520-29 autore del famoso Trezo Caso di Sciacca (La Lumia I.- Studi di Storia Siciliana – II- 228). Forse da lui poterono discendere i Leggio di Ragusa, che naturale cosa è, avessero abbandonata a terra dove tanto barbaramente era stato finito l'anzidetto, non esclusa la supposizione che costui avesse potuto essere di Ragusa, dacchè, su per giù, intorno quell' epoca sonovi in paese dei Leggio in nobile stato. Um martino stende testamento 5 Febbraio 1534 Not. Franceso Riggio, e può dirsi il progenitore dei Leggio di Ragusa. Suo fretello Vincenzo sposa D. Anna Gurrieri del Mag. Paolo, intorno al 1540-50
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ajcris13 wrote:Here is the complete text:
Way beyond my skills... :D

I suggest you re-post this paragraph in the "Italian language, handwriting, script & translations" at the bottom of the home page where you will probably find a faster response.
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OK, will do.

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It's always better not retype the text but to scan it (to avoid further mistakes). However, Carmine observation seems to be right; from the context it results to be "il magnifico (honorific title) Girolamo Leggio è (at that time, about 1520) capitano di Sciacca" (a town in Sicily: this is an overview of Sciacca ten days ago :wink: [img=http://s3.postimage.org/2GafA.jpg] ).
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