"pucciarella" research
"pucciarella" research
According to the 1900 Federal Census, my great-grandmother Filomena pucciarella, along with daughter Angelina and son paolo, immigrated to the US (New York) in 1893. They probably came over with my great-grandfather Gianbattiste, who likely died in 1896. I cannot find any record of their trip. Can you help? (It's quite possible that there was a name change from "pucciarelli" somewhere along the line.) Thanks!
Re: "pucciarella" research
Hello and welcome to the forum-
do you know what town in Italy they came from? did if they remain in the NY area? Other than the 1900 census record, do you have any other U.S. records for them?
Peg
do you know what town in Italy they came from? did if they remain in the NY area? Other than the 1900 census record, do you have any other U.S. records for them?
Peg
Re: "pucciarella" research
Are they on the 1900 census on Baxter Street with children Antonia and Ferdinando?
That census shows an 1891 year of immigration with only Ferdinando being born in NY.
That census shows an 1891 year of immigration with only Ferdinando being born in NY.
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I'm told they may have come from pisticci, but not entirely certain. They lived in Manhattan when they first arrived. Angelina married Giovanni LaFianza on June 19, 1899 in Manhattan (I have the record). She died September 1959. Having been widowed in 1896, Filomena married again, around 1900, to John Spizzirro.
Again, many thanks.
Again, many thanks.
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Their address is listed as 28 Madison Street. It lists Giovanni LaFianza (head of houshold), Angelina LaFianza (wife) Filomena pucciarella (mother-in-law), paolo pucciarella (son of Filomena) and Giovanna pucciarella(daughter of Filomena - born in NY).
Federal Census Record: Manhattan Borough, Supervisor's District 1, Ennumeration District 29, Sheet 16, Ward 4, June 9, 1900.
Federal Census Record: Manhattan Borough, Supervisor's District 1, Ennumeration District 29, Sheet 16, Ward 4, June 9, 1900.
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Okay, I had the wrong census because I was searching under her surname from her first marriage.
Re: "pucciarella" research
Pucciarelli Gianbattista 36 y May 6 1896 certificate #15675 Manhattan P264
could this be yours in the NYC death index?
http://italiangen.org/NYCDeath.stm
to order the certificate
do you know Filomena's maiden name?
could this be yours in the NYC death index?
http://italiangen.org/NYCDeath.stm
to order the certificate
do you know Filomena's maiden name?
Re: "pucciarella" research
Filomena was born pucciarella (or pucciarelli).
The death record for Gianbattiste is most likely that of my great-grandfather. What additional information will be on the death certificate?
The death record for Gianbattiste is most likely that of my great-grandfather. What additional information will be on the death certificate?
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The earliest death record I have from NYC is from 1907 and the deceased parents' names and town of birth in Italy is not on the record. It only says he was born in Italy and has his cause of death.
Are you saying that Filomena's maiden and married names were basically
the same?
it also has his occupation, age at death, location of his death, and place and date of burial
Are you saying that Filomena's maiden and married names were basically
the same?
it also has his occupation, age at death, location of his death, and place and date of burial
Re: "pucciarella" research
Sorry!
Filomena's madien name was "pronie", according to Giovanni/Angelina marriage cert.
Filomena's madien name was "pronie", according to Giovanni/Angelina marriage cert.
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I am searching all kinds of possibilities but with no luck.
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That has to be a very bad misspelling of Filomena's maiden name, and I am trying to figure out what the correct Italian spelling might be, as she may have entered the U.S. under her maiden and not married name.
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Hi, here a record abt a Giambattista Pucciarelli family( first name short versions: G.Batta or Giobatta), maybe not your ancestor, however just for let you know:
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about G Batta Pucciarelly
Name: G Batta Pucciarelly (Pucciarelli)
Arrival Date: 8 Apr 1892
Birth Year: abt 1854
Age: 38
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/RaceÂ/Nationality: Italian
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Cachemire
http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/1749/pucciarelli.jpg
suanj
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about G Batta Pucciarelly
Name: G Batta Pucciarelly (Pucciarelli)
Arrival Date: 8 Apr 1892
Birth Year: abt 1854
Age: 38
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/RaceÂ/Nationality: Italian
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Cachemire
http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/1749/pucciarelli.jpg
suanj
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Re: "pucciarella" research
Agree that the spelling of pronie looks dubious, but I have a copy of the original marriage cert and that is how it's spelled there.
Thank you suanj for your posting. It's a possibility, but it seems he came with children whose names I don't recognize. It is also contrary to the death record of the other Gianbattiste I found, who died in 1896 at age 36. They ost likely are two different individuals. Do you know what the triangle represents to the left of his name on the manifest?
Thank you suanj for your posting. It's a possibility, but it seems he came with children whose names I don't recognize. It is also contrary to the death record of the other Gianbattiste I found, who died in 1896 at age 36. They ost likely are two different individuals. Do you know what the triangle represents to the left of his name on the manifest?
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Here's Filomena's second marriage info. Her maiden name is given as Provia.
Giovanni Spizziri
Birth: , , Italy
Marriage: 30 DEC 1901 Manhattan, New York, New York
Father: Luigi
Mother: Rosa Gatis
Wife
Filomina Provia Pucciarelli
Birth: , , Italy
Marriage: 30 DEC 1901 Manhattan, New York, New York
Father:
Mother: Leonarda Petraglia
Giovanni Spizziri
Birth: , , Italy
Marriage: 30 DEC 1901 Manhattan, New York, New York
Father: Luigi
Mother: Rosa Gatis
Wife
Filomina Provia Pucciarelli
Birth: , , Italy
Marriage: 30 DEC 1901 Manhattan, New York, New York
Father:
Mother: Leonarda Petraglia