Marriage in Cianciana
Marriage in Cianciana
I am trying to find out when my grandparents were married. They were married in Cianciana, Sicily. It was either 1910 or 1911. The names are Francesco Castellano and Vincenza Taglialavore.
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Re: Marriage in Cianciana
mcvega wrote:I am trying to find out when my grandparents were married. They were married in Cianciana, Sicily. It was either 1910 or 1911. The names are Francesco Castellano and Vincenza Taglialavore.
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There are some online records for your town at this link
https://familysearch.org/search/image/i ... %3D2043548
Unfortunately, the online marriage records only go to 1910 and your ancestor's record is not there. You will have to contact the town to get the information.
Ufficio Anagrafe
Comune di Cianciana
Via Papa Giovanni XXIII, 9
92012 CIANCIANA (AG)
Italia
E-mail: comunedicianciana@virgilio.it
Telefoni: 0922.987153
Fax: 0922.987236
to help with letters in Italian:
http://www.circolocalabrese.org/genealo ... -index.asp
http://www.angelfire.com/ok3/pearlsofwi ... tters.html
Erudita
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Re: Marriage in Cianciana
Hi there
This is what is available for Cianciana, Agrigento online at Family Search:
Allegati (matrimoni) 1901-1902
Cittadinanze 1866-1910 Morti 1862-1904
Morti 1905-1910
Nati 1862-1886
Nati 1887-1909
Nati 1910 Pubblicazioni 1866-1902
Pubblicazioni 1904-1910 Matrimoni 1862-1910 Diversi 1862-1865 Memorandum 1862-1865
https://familysearch.org/search/image/i ... %3D2043548
I did have a look through the Marriage Banns for 1909 and 1910 but couldn't see anything there. The names Taglialavore and Castellano do appear but not the ones you mention here.
I'm guessing Francesco and Vincenza were married 1911 and unfortunately those records are not on line. Here are the indices for 1909 and 1910 for you to look at.
1909 Index: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,349479901
1910 Index: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,349479901
I guess you would possibly have to borrow the following film from a Family History Library:
Nati 1923-1929 -- Pubblicazioni 1911-1929 -- Matrimoni 1911-1923
Family History Library
International B1 Access Services
2280033
Good luck with your search.
Angela
This is what is available for Cianciana, Agrigento online at Family Search:
Allegati (matrimoni) 1901-1902
Cittadinanze 1866-1910 Morti 1862-1904
Morti 1905-1910
Nati 1862-1886
Nati 1887-1909
Nati 1910 Pubblicazioni 1866-1902
Pubblicazioni 1904-1910 Matrimoni 1862-1910 Diversi 1862-1865 Memorandum 1862-1865
https://familysearch.org/search/image/i ... %3D2043548
I did have a look through the Marriage Banns for 1909 and 1910 but couldn't see anything there. The names Taglialavore and Castellano do appear but not the ones you mention here.
I'm guessing Francesco and Vincenza were married 1911 and unfortunately those records are not on line. Here are the indices for 1909 and 1910 for you to look at.
1909 Index: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,349479901
1910 Index: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/T ... ,349479901
I guess you would possibly have to borrow the following film from a Family History Library:
Nati 1923-1929 -- Pubblicazioni 1911-1929 -- Matrimoni 1911-1923
Family History Library
International B1 Access Services
2280033
Good luck with your search.
Angela
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Re: Marriage in Cianciana
Erudita: We must have both hit the submit button at the same time because the first time I hit "submit" my post disappeared. My understanding is there are films available from the Family History Library for 1911-1923 so would your advice still be to contact the commune. I'll leave it with you and your expertise in these matters. I noticed as I was going through the banns that for some years there were allegati following the respective years so that is worth noting for future reference for anyone reading this site.
Kind regards, Angela
Kind regards, Angela
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Thank You I will check the Family History Library.
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You are very welcome. You will probably have to order them first and then once they arrive you usually need to book in a time to use one of the library's film readers.mcvega wrote:Thank You I will check the Family History Library.
I've just been reading through this related thread: http://www.italiangenealogy.com/forum/l ... 6#p201766t
and I'm not sure I understand. From reading this previous thread, it sounds like you may have already located Francesco and Vincenza's 1911 marriage record when you visited Cianciana? Is that right or have I misinterpreted what you said?
Angela
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Re: Marriage in Cianciana
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Postby mcvega » Today, 01:04
Yes, you are right. When everything is in Italian I cannot read it. Thank You for showing me that. I will now write it down. I was hoping to get a date. I am pretty sure it is in June. I have learned a lesson, I shouldn't get so excited and not write down the translation, for some reason I think I will remember it and obviously I don't.
Thanks for your help" Copied from the following thread as I think it was intended for here:
http://www.italiangenealogy.com/forum/l ... 6#p201766t
No probs, easily done, and you are very welcome. I am glad you have the marriage record. Are you able to scan it and post it here and then we could take a look at it and interpret the date for you and also interpret anything else you might be unsure of.
Angela
Postby mcvega » Today, 01:04
Yes, you are right. When everything is in Italian I cannot read it. Thank You for showing me that. I will now write it down. I was hoping to get a date. I am pretty sure it is in June. I have learned a lesson, I shouldn't get so excited and not write down the translation, for some reason I think I will remember it and obviously I don't.
Thanks for your help" Copied from the following thread as I think it was intended for here:
http://www.italiangenealogy.com/forum/l ... 6#p201766t
No probs, easily done, and you are very welcome. I am glad you have the marriage record. Are you able to scan it and post it here and then we could take a look at it and interpret the date for you and also interpret anything else you might be unsure of.
Angela
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I have been working on this for awhile, let me know if it works
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Re: Marriage in Cianciana
Well done. It is dated 30 September 1911 at 10.15. It was the date you were enquiring about wasn't it?
I'm going to download it to my computer and have a closer look at it and then will come back to the forum. Is there anything else specific you want translated from it.
Angela
I'm going to download it to my computer and have a closer look at it and then will come back to the forum. Is there anything else specific you want translated from it.
Angela
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Re: Marriage in Cianciana
Dated 30 September 1911 at 10.15 a.m.
Francesco Castellano, Single, aged 20, Villico born and residing Cianciana son of Giuseppe Castellano and Giuseppa Cicero both residing in Cianciana.
Vincenza Taglialavore, unmarried woman (Nubile), aged (possibly 15 – little hard to decipher the writing – 16 or under anyways), there is another word after this which I can't decipher. Her occupation was Casalinga. She was born and residing in Cianciana and the daughter of the late Giovanni and of Rosa Cicero.
Interesting, if I am reading correctly both mothers had the surname Cicero – cousins maybe?
This is all I can read for the moment. It seems to go out of focus for me when I try and enlarge it. So fantastic you have this. Hopefully you will find more when you go to Sicily.
Angela
Francesco Castellano, Single, aged 20, Villico born and residing Cianciana son of Giuseppe Castellano and Giuseppa Cicero both residing in Cianciana.
Vincenza Taglialavore, unmarried woman (Nubile), aged (possibly 15 – little hard to decipher the writing – 16 or under anyways), there is another word after this which I can't decipher. Her occupation was Casalinga. She was born and residing in Cianciana and the daughter of the late Giovanni and of Rosa Cicero.
Interesting, if I am reading correctly both mothers had the surname Cicero – cousins maybe?
This is all I can read for the moment. It seems to go out of focus for me when I try and enlarge it. So fantastic you have this. Hopefully you will find more when you go to Sicily.
Angela
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I think Rosa and Giuseppa were sisters but I am not sure. My grandparents always said they were cousins and use to play together when they were very young. Does it give a residence at all? This is my second trip to Cianciana and now I have the address where Francesco was born. I am hoping the people who live there still remembers the family and maybe they still live in Cianciana.
Thank you so much. I am immediately writing this on the certificate and putting it on my tree.
Thank You
Thank you so much. I am immediately writing this on the certificate and putting it on my tree.
Thank You
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Have just figured out the word I couldn't decipher so have edited my post here.AngelaGrace56 wrote:Dated 30 September 1911 at 10.15 a.m.
Francesco Castellano, Single, aged 20, Villico born and residing Cianciana son of Giuseppe Castellano and Giuseppa Cicero both residing in Cianciana.
Vincenza Taglialavore, unmarried woman (Nubile), aged 15, compiuto. Her occupation states Casalinga - so no profession and undertaking home duties. She was born and residing in Cianciana and the daughter of the late Giovanni and of Rosa Cicero.
Interesting, if I am reading correctly both mothers had the surname Cicero – cousins maybe?
This is all I can read for the moment. It seems to go out of focus for me when I try and enlarge it. So fantastic you have this. Hopefully you will find more when you go to Sicily.
Angela
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ok so what does "compiuto" mean?
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Fantastic and you are most welcome.mcvega wrote:I think Rosa and Giuseppa were sisters but I am not sure. My grandparents always said they were cousins and use to play together when they were very young. Does it give a residence at all? This is my second trip to Cianciana and now I have the address where Francesco was born. I am hoping the people who live there still remembers the family and maybe they still live in Cianciana.
Thank you so much. I am immediately writing this on the certificate and putting it on my tree.
Thank You
No it doesn't give an address unfortunately.
Re the word "compiuto" I think that it means that she had reached 15. (I need to read more about this.)
The lower part of the document before the signatures usually talks about when the marriage banns took place. I can see reference is possibly also being made to the fact that the bride's father had died. Maybe if I come back to it later with fresher eyes I'll be able to decipher a little more.
Angela
Re: Marriage in Cianciana
Yes her father died when she was 12. She had a step father.