Finding Birth, Marriage records in Trapani
Finding Birth, Marriage records in Trapani
I am trying to locate my Gervasi relatives from Trapani...what is the best way to locate them? Via microfilm from FamilySearch or how? Thanx, HappyJack
Re: Finding Birth, Marriage records in Trapani
Trapani is both a Province and a Comune/town -
You must know the exact town of birth because the records are held at the town level.
Here is a link to civil records in Province of Trapani - listing the comunes that are available...
http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... +italiano/
You can also search the LDS microfilms - but I think they only have the Comune of Trapani...
https://familysearch.org/search/catalog ... %20Library
T.
You must know the exact town of birth because the records are held at the town level.
Here is a link to civil records in Province of Trapani - listing the comunes that are available...
http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... +italiano/
You can also search the LDS microfilms - but I think they only have the Comune of Trapani...
https://familysearch.org/search/catalog ... %20Library
T.
Re: Finding Birth, Marriage records in Trapani
Wow, yes I understand the diff between the two ----- oh, before I forget, thank you for the quick response. This is going to take some serious effort....thanx again, Jack in Florida
Re: Finding Birth, Marriage records in Trapani
If you give us some details about the persons you are searching for, maybe we can help...
Best to start with US records -
Names, approx. dates of birth, immigration years, place settled in US...
Then we can possibly identify the town and find Italian records.
T.
Best to start with US records -
Names, approx. dates of birth, immigration years, place settled in US...
Then we can possibly identify the town and find Italian records.
T.
Re: Finding Birth, Marriage records in Trapani
Edited Ciaoooooooooooooo! T
How about some names and dates maybe we can help researching what town the Gervasi's are from possibility San Vito Lo Capo Trapani
Marty
How about some names and dates maybe we can help researching what town the Gervasi's are from possibility San Vito Lo Capo Trapani
Marty
Researching Trabia, Palermo surnames Adelfio, Bondi, Butera, Scardino,Rinella, Scardamaglia
Marty
Marty
Re: Finding Birth, Marriage records in Trapani
Ok, thank you, I'll put something together and get it out later today, I hope. Thanx again, Jack
Re: Finding Birth, Marriage records in Trapani
New to this list --- am researching the following family:
Matteo (Matthew) Gervasi - B ~ 1860ish -- spouse --- Angelina
Their children, in birth order:
Paola Gervasi - B ~ 1878 - came to US in 1913 married Nicolo Mirlocca. They lived in Elizabeth, New Jersey (not sure if they married in Italy though - sounds like it)
Luigia Gervasi - B ~ 1886 came to the US in 1913.
Pietro Gervasi - B ~ 23 JUN 1889 - came to the US in 24 MAR 1921.
Crispino Gervasi - B ~ 15 MAY 1894 - came to the US in 23 SEP 1912.
I pulled the above data from Ships Passengers Lists - they all came to Elizabeth, N.J. Both Pietro and Crispino registered for Drafts. The birth dates are from their draft registration forms.
I could not find them in any US Census - am assuming it's a matter of how last name spelled or interpreted (my search term). I've tried a number of spellings but none seem to work. I can find Paola (Pauline) and Nicolo in the Elizabeth City Directories, Hope this sheds some light on the issue.
Will appreciate any and all help and suggestions. Jack in Florida
Matteo (Matthew) Gervasi - B ~ 1860ish -- spouse --- Angelina
Their children, in birth order:
Paola Gervasi - B ~ 1878 - came to US in 1913 married Nicolo Mirlocca. They lived in Elizabeth, New Jersey (not sure if they married in Italy though - sounds like it)
Luigia Gervasi - B ~ 1886 came to the US in 1913.
Pietro Gervasi - B ~ 23 JUN 1889 - came to the US in 24 MAR 1921.
Crispino Gervasi - B ~ 15 MAY 1894 - came to the US in 23 SEP 1912.
I pulled the above data from Ships Passengers Lists - they all came to Elizabeth, N.J. Both Pietro and Crispino registered for Drafts. The birth dates are from their draft registration forms.
I could not find them in any US Census - am assuming it's a matter of how last name spelled or interpreted (my search term). I've tried a number of spellings but none seem to work. I can find Paola (Pauline) and Nicolo in the Elizabeth City Directories, Hope this sheds some light on the issue.
Will appreciate any and all help and suggestions. Jack in Florida
Re: Finding Birth, Marriage records in Trapani
Here is an AMAZING find - based on the link you previously sent me....I think I got extremely lucky finding this marriage record for Pietro Gervasi and Anna M.
Yes, these are also Pietro's parents ...Matteo and Angelina. What a stroke of luck and stick to itness !!!!!
That makes me feel good - sadly, the earlier years are not available. I am basing this on a posting in Ancestry of a Gervasi Family Tree (which just lists the parents names and no dates) and the Ships lists.....
Ok, given what I have previously sent and this actual record - can you tell me where they are from? Province, Commune etc. Thanx, Jack
Yes, these are also Pietro's parents ...Matteo and Angelina. What a stroke of luck and stick to itness !!!!!
That makes me feel good - sadly, the earlier years are not available. I am basing this on a posting in Ancestry of a Gervasi Family Tree (which just lists the parents names and no dates) and the Ships lists.....
Ok, given what I have previously sent and this actual record - can you tell me where they are from? Province, Commune etc. Thanx, Jack
Re: Finding Birth, Marriage records in Trapani
Hello to T and Marty!
Here's a 1920 ship manifest for Nicolo, Paola and Nicolo's sister Francesca Paola. On the second page, Nicolo's birthplace is shown as Vita, a town in the province of Trapani.
Both Nicolo and Paola previously in US. Nicolo--1910-1919; Paola--1913-1919.
http://interactive.ancestry.com/7488/NY ... _2717-0058
Biff
Here's a 1920 ship manifest for Nicolo, Paola and Nicolo's sister Francesca Paola. On the second page, Nicolo's birthplace is shown as Vita, a town in the province of Trapani.
Both Nicolo and Paola previously in US. Nicolo--1910-1919; Paola--1913-1919.
http://interactive.ancestry.com/7488/NY ... _2717-0058
Biff
"Mintammicce impizzu mpizzu ca pue largu minne fazzu sule!"
Re: Finding Birth, Marriage records in Trapani
From this link - http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... ewsIndex=0
it appears that Pietro and Anna and Angela were all resident (living?) in Trapani while the deceased father (fu Matteo) was from Vita also. Comments please - thanx, Jack
it appears that Pietro and Anna and Angela were all resident (living?) in Trapani while the deceased father (fu Matteo) was from Vita also. Comments please - thanx, Jack
Re: Finding Birth, Marriage records in Trapani
Where you see "fu Matteo... vita in Trapani" - it means that he lived in Trapani in his lifetime... not that he resided in Vita.HappyJack wrote:From this link - http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... ewsIndex=0
it appears that Pietro and Anna and Angela were all resident (living?) in Trapani while the deceased father (fu Matteo) was from Vita also. Comments please - thanx, Jack
They were all residents of Trapani (Pietro was born there). Matteo's place of birth is not mentioned.
Anna Mangiapane was born in Monte S. Giuliano, but resided in Trapani.
T. (Hi Biff! )
Re: Finding Birth, Marriage records in Trapani
Based on Paola and sister Luigia's 1913 manifest, Matteo died something after their 1913 departure (he was listed as their nearest relative in Italy) and brother Pietro's 1920 marriage. Death records for those years are on the antenati site. Matteo's death record should give details of his place of birth and parents' names.
http://interactive.ancestry.com/7488/NY ... sePUB=true
Biff
http://interactive.ancestry.com/7488/NY ... sePUB=true
Biff
"Mintammicce impizzu mpizzu ca pue largu minne fazzu sule!"
Re: Finding Birth, Marriage records in Trapani
Biff, that was a good catch - I missed that one. Will have to spend some time tonite going thru death records ....say 1913 to 1920. Thanx, Jack
Re: Finding Birth, Marriage records in Trapani
Thanx, HappyJack.......now I have my homework assignment for the evening.
Re: Finding Birth, Marriage records in Trapani
I was already searching the deaths
Matteo Gervasi was born in Monte S. Giuliano
Death of Matteo Gervasi in 1919 in Trapani
#911
Dated 7 October 1919 in Trapani
Appearing before the official was Pietro Gervasi, 30, middle class citizen residing in Trapani; and Salvatore Lombardo, 53, worker residing in Trapani; to declare that at 9 AM on 2 October at Contrada Formusa, died Matteo Gervasi, age 62, citizen who resided in Trapani ... BORN in Monte S. Giuliano to deceased Pietro, middle class citizen, who resided in Monte S. Giuliano in his lifetime; and to deceased Paola Catalano also residing MSG in lifetime.
He was the husband of Angela Pellegrino.
http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... ewsIndex=0
T. (Hi again, Biff! )
Matteo Gervasi was born in Monte S. Giuliano
Death of Matteo Gervasi in 1919 in Trapani
#911
Dated 7 October 1919 in Trapani
Appearing before the official was Pietro Gervasi, 30, middle class citizen residing in Trapani; and Salvatore Lombardo, 53, worker residing in Trapani; to declare that at 9 AM on 2 October at Contrada Formusa, died Matteo Gervasi, age 62, citizen who resided in Trapani ... BORN in Monte S. Giuliano to deceased Pietro, middle class citizen, who resided in Monte S. Giuliano in his lifetime; and to deceased Paola Catalano also residing MSG in lifetime.
He was the husband of Angela Pellegrino.
http://www.antenati.san.beniculturali.i ... ewsIndex=0
T. (Hi again, Biff! )