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Surname Lanzi from Norcia, Perugia Italy

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Does anyone have info on a Cesare Lanzi who married Philomena Mariotti in Norcia? Their son Eugene is my grandfather and I am very interested in Eugene's siblings and ancestors. If you have info for me please post or send an email.
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Does this look like it could be his manifest?
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1915 manifest
page 2

3 Feb 1915 SS Patria Naples to NY
lines 11-13
Filomena Mariotti, 36 (abt 1878)
- widow
- relative in Norcia father Luciano Mariotti
- final destination Phila, PA
- in US 1905-8 in W.Va
- joining uncle Aurelio Mariotti & aunt in Phila
- b in Norcia
son Eugenio Lanzi, 14 (abt 1900)
daughter Alice Lanzi, 10 (abt 1904)
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It is very close. I have Eugene's birth to be 1898 which would be a few years off but mistakes are found everywhere. Eugene came over again in 1922 on the Guiseppe Verdi. I was told recently that his father died and Filomena moved the family back to Italy so it could be.
Thanks for looking it up.
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Location for Cesare Lanzi in 1905?
1st manifest for Filomena?


1905 manifest
28 Jan 1905 Konigen Luise Naples to NY
line 13
Filomena Mariotti, 26? (abt 1878)
- married
- last residence Norcia
- joining husband Cesare Lanzi
in McDowell West Virginia
traveling with lines 14-15 joining cousin/b-i-l Cesare Lanzi

(note: Filomena's cousins Paris & Guerino Mariotti
settled in McDowell, WV)
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Do you have Eugene Lanzi's WWI Card?

1918 WWI Draft Registration Card
Name: Eugune (Eugene) Lanzi
714 Percy,
Philadelphia, Philadelphia, PA
Age: 20
Birth Date: 14 May 189[8]
Born in Italy, Non-Declarant
Nearest Relative:
Filomenia Mariote Lanzi
at 714 S. Percy, Phila
Roll: 1907528 DraftBoard: 3
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Unfortunately, I didn't find any FHL films for the town of Norcia, so you will have to write to the city hall for birth, marriage & death acts. Here is the contact information.

Ufficio di Stato Civile
Via Fiume, 1
06046 Norcia (PG)
ITALY
Phone Number: (+39) 0743-824911;
Fax: (+39) 0743-824934

Official website for Norcia:

http://www.comune.norcia.pg.it/index.asp

Requests should be in Italian & include a self addressed return envelope, a copy of your photo ID and an international reply coupon (1 per every 2-3 records requested). The IRC can be obtained at your post office & they pay for the return postage.

Here is a form letter that will translate your request into Italian.

http://www.circolocalabrese.org/resourc ... civile.asp

Here is an Italian-English genealogical word list, that will help with translating the records.

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/ ... Italia.ASP

Hope this helps.

:) jcsm
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Do you have Eugene Lanzi's 1920 census?
Another sister, Armida b bet 1896-1900 in Norcia?


possible 1920 census
Name: Eugene Lenzi (Lanzi)
Home in 1920:
Alter St
Philadelphia Ward 2, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Age: 21 years Estimated birth year: abt 1899
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Brother-in-law
Father's Birth Place: Italy Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Single
Year of Immigration: 1915
Able to read: Yes Able to Write: Yes

Household Members:
head Joseph Silvester 26 (abt 1896)
- immig 1910
- carpenter
wife Armedda (Armida) Silvester 20 (abt 1900)
- immig 1917
son Cescaro Silvester 1/12 (abt 1919)
brother Pietro Silvester 23 (abt 1897)
- immig 1913
- presser, cloth
brother-in-law Eugene Lenzi 21 (abt 1899)
- immig 1915 Al
- presser, cloth
------------------

related manifest: sister Armida Lanzi

did not sail 1917
page 2
21 Feb 1917 SS Patria Naples to NY
line 22
Armida Lauzi (Lanzi), 20 (abt 1896)
- single
- last residence Norcia
- relative in Norcia, her grandfather Luciano Mariotti
- going to Phila
- joining mother Filamena? Mariotti
------------

2 more sisters?

Flavia Lanzi, b 9 Apr 1907 in St Paul Va, immig 1923, joining mother in Phila
Ada Lanzi, b abt 1910 Norcia, immig 1919, joining mother in Phila
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Thanks for all the help! I do know Eugene had a sister named Armida. You found connections to Virginia! No wonder I can't find census records. I will write the Norcia city hall for more info.
You all have helped tremendously. Thank you very much.
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Hello, Gina,

Thanks for posting this now... 12+ years ago! I hope you've since found more information about your grandfather.

My paternal grandmother is Lola Trincia, Philomena Mariotti's daughter from her marriage to Giovanni Trincia. I've been eager to fill in the holes of Philomena's story, including her emigration to the U.S. I have Italian ancestors on both sides of my family and find this all very fascinating!

Thanks again.
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I have spoken with Denise Bordato about your side of the family. Philomena is my great-grandmother also! I have a family tree for the Lanzi branch if you are interested. Denise should have it also.
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