Looking for more info re: Luigi D'Alessio

[vj]

Social Security Death Index

Name: Luigi Dalessio

Date of Birth: Monday January 27, 1890
Date of Death: March 1967
Est. Age at death: 77 years, 1 months

Last known residence:
City: Newark; Roseville
County: Essex
State: New Jersey
ZIP Code: 07107

Social Security details:
State of Issue: New Jersey
Number: 139-20-1456

[vj]

Hi vj:
The records that you have is very impressing! Did he change his birthday on 1942 Draft registration.
Is that why we cannot find when he came to this country?

Wow I see alot of information that I did not know before! Like his second wife's name Flora? How do you get these information so quickly. Thank you; thank you so much.
I really would like to know what ship and when he came here. Thanks.

Rachelyne,
You're very welcome, we're always happy to help !
The records are from ancestry. com, a subscription site
I think he was married to Fortunata in 1930 since she is also on
his 1942 draft registration card.
Could Flora have been a nickname?
His manifest is a real challenge to find.
Perhaps tomorrow we'll get some more folks to help in the search!
Valarie

[Rachelyne]

Sorry again. I made a mistake in my previous post. In 1930 census is still the first wife but she also changed her name from Fortunada to Flora.
I would appreciate it also if you find out when she died. and when he got married to the second wife and her name.

[DanM]

Rachelyne,

I looked through the Oceania manifest and could not find a Luigi D'Alessio arriving the 18th of April 1911.

If I search using VJ's info (1909 immigration) there are a couple.

You can search the Ellis Island arrivals yourself by going too

http://www.ellisisland.org/search/

If there are bad links to the image data, ie the results point to a manifest but when you click it you go to another vessel (it happens) then go to

http://www.stevemorse.org/ellis/boat.html

Type in the ship name and arrival date, this will let you look directly at the manifest. Use the frame advance buttons to scan it page by page.

If VJ comes up with a naturalization (which she has the uncanny ability of doing so) then we can get the correct manifest to see who else came over with him (if anyone).

[vj]

Was hoping that wife Fortunata’s manifest would help us find Luigi.
It doesn’t appear to…
Valarie

1909 manifest
page 2

21 May 1909, SS Calabria, Naples to NY
Lines 2-7

- last residence Cancello ed Arnone (Caserta, Campania)
- in Cancello ed Arnone, father (& grandfather) Pasquale Manzo
- destination Newark, NJ
- born in Cancello ed Arnone

Did not sail:
Rosa Manzo 25
- joining husband Antonio De Toma at 33-36 Cutler Street
Maria De Toma 3
Francesco De Toma 2

Sailed:
Achille Manzo 27
- joining cousin Giuseppe Manzo at 33-35 Cutler Street
- in US before, 1901/1908 in Newark

Did not sail:
Teresa Manzo 18
- joining cousin Giuseppe Manzo at 33-35 Cutler Street

Sailed:
Fortunata Manzo 16 (abt 1892)
- joining cousin Giuseppe Manzo at 33-35 Cutler Street

[PeterTimber]

Sometimes passengers arrive at another port such as Boston, Philadelphia or Baltimore and if that is the case you can call NARA. Go to www.angelfire.com/ok3/pearlsofwisdom/ships.html =Peter=

[DanM]

Also check border crossings from Canada.

[vj]

Fortunata Manzo

1910 census

Home in 1910:
33 Goble Street
Newark Ward 10, Essex, New Jersey

Head Agelo Manzo 28
Wife Philomena Manzo 26
Daughter Gelsoina Manzo 4
Son Tony Manzo 2
Boarder Daniel Diano 30
Sister Fortunata Manzo 15
- single
- immig 1909
- embossing, leather shop

[vj]

Hey Peter & Dan, you were right it wasn't NY
Valarie

Luigi D’Alessio

Edit: fixed manifest links

Nov 1910 page 1
page 2

Nov 1910, SS Lazio, Naples to Boston
Line 17
Luigi D’Alessio 20 (abt 1890)
- single
- last residence Aversa
- in Aversa, father Gennaro
- destination (??)
- joining cousin (??)
- born in Aversa

[DanM]

Good job, I don't maintain my subscriptions to Ancestry anymore so I'm glad to see someone else does and was able to help.

[PeterTimber]

Dear Dan M I have found that immigrants destined to the midwest are mor e likely to use border crossings from canada since east coast immigrants never go much beyond Boston and Baltimore. =Peter=

[DanM]

Peter,

I agree, but there are several cases of east coast destinations arriving into Canada and then traveling too their end destination. Just as is the opposite case, many east coast arrivals who's end destination is the midwest.

But never hurts to check and those are sound words.

Dan

[Rachelyne]

Dan, Valerie and Peter:

I don't know how I can thank you. My family will be so thankful of you all. As i said before, you do miracles here. I have been doing this search on and off for at least 10 years. Thank you so so much.

[adellaholly]

If Fortuna was still his wife in 1942 on the draft registration, the "Flora" in 1930 was just another instance of using an Americanized version/shorter form of the name for everyday. They had Americanized Rosaria as "Rose" and Gennaro as "Jerry" by 1930. If he was 28 in 1930 and 40 in 1930 then 1890 was about right as a b-date - so if he arived in this country in 1909 he was about 19/20?

Did the census have arrival/naturalization as 1909? If it was naturalization as 1909 he might have been in this country longer - did his parents come here or did he come with other relatives?

Celeste

[vj]

Hi Celeste!
Luigi was found arriving in Boston in 1910.
Valarie

Edit: fixed manifest links

Nov 1910 page 1
page 2

Nov 1910, SS Lazio, Naples to Boston
Line 17
Luigi D’Alessio 20 (abt 1890)
- single
- last residence Aversa
- in Aversa, father Gennaro
- destination (??)
- joining cousin (??)
- born in Aversa