Parenti Family of Castelvecchio/ LUCCA
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Parenti Family of Castelvecchio/ LUCCA
Looking for any information on my Grandfather Alberto Parenti from Capannori, Castelvecchio LU.
He left Italy at age 17 and arrived at Ellis Island 1913, eventually making his was to San Francisco (Half Moon Bay/San Mateo County) where he married Alice his wife. They had 3 daughters, Norma, Marie and Gloria Parenti.
He left all behind for reasons unknown to me and returned to Italy after WWII where it is believed that he remarried. He never became a U.S. citizen.
Other families he may have been associated with after he returned to Italy are the Del Seppia Family in Firenze.
He left Italy at age 17 and arrived at Ellis Island 1913, eventually making his was to San Francisco (Half Moon Bay/San Mateo County) where he married Alice his wife. They had 3 daughters, Norma, Marie and Gloria Parenti.
He left all behind for reasons unknown to me and returned to Italy after WWII where it is believed that he remarried. He never became a U.S. citizen.
Other families he may have been associated with after he returned to Italy are the Del Seppia Family in Firenze.
Re: Parenti Family of Castelvecchio/ LUCCA
Hello and Welcome to IG!
Are you looking for US or Italian records? On his 1913 manifest, it lists his father as Pasquale and a brother Giulio whom he is joining in San Francisco. I can post images if you need them.
Biff
Are you looking for US or Italian records? On his 1913 manifest, it lists his father as Pasquale and a brother Giulio whom he is joining in San Francisco. I can post images if you need them.
Biff
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Re: Parenti Family of Castelvecchio/ LUCCA
Yes PLEASE!!!
Thanks,
Carlo
Thanks,
Carlo
Re: Parenti Family of Castelvecchio/ LUCCA
1913 manifest for Alberto Parenti, line 13
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Page 2
Name: Alberto Parenti
Arrival Date: 17 May 1913
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Age: 17
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Havre
Ethnicity/RaceÂ/Nationality: Italian (North) (Italian)
Ship Name: La Provence
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Last residence and place of birth: Capannori
Nearest relative in Italy: Father Pasquale
Destination: SFO to join brother Giulio
1908 manifest for brother Giulio, line 11
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Page 2
Name: Giulio Parenti
Arrival Date: 23 Apr 1908
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Age: 15
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Genoa, Italy
Ethnicity/RaceÂ/Nationality: Italian (North) (Italian)
Last residence: Carraia Carraia is a hamlet in the town of Capannori
Place of birth: Carraia
Destination: SFO to join uncle Paolo Parenti
Biff
Page 1
Page 2
Name: Alberto Parenti
Arrival Date: 17 May 1913
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Age: 17
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Havre
Ethnicity/RaceÂ/Nationality: Italian (North) (Italian)
Ship Name: La Provence
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Last residence and place of birth: Capannori
Nearest relative in Italy: Father Pasquale
Destination: SFO to join brother Giulio
1908 manifest for brother Giulio, line 11
Page 1
Page 2
Name: Giulio Parenti
Arrival Date: 23 Apr 1908
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Age: 15
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Genoa, Italy
Ethnicity/RaceÂ/Nationality: Italian (North) (Italian)
Last residence: Carraia Carraia is a hamlet in the town of Capannori
Place of birth: Carraia
Destination: SFO to join uncle Paolo Parenti
Biff
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Re: Parenti Family of Castelvecchio/ LUCCA
Edited to add California Death Record.
Carlo,
Although the records I posted appear to be for Alberto and his brother Giulio based on the ship manifests and places of birth, I cannot explain why his wife is shown as Gelsomina not Alice and there are no children named Norma, Marie or Gloria on the 1930 census. Perhaps there was more than one family with the Parenti surname from Capannori who emigrated to San Francisco.
1930 census for Giulio Parenti and Family
Note occupation: Proprietor Butcher Shop
Could this be Alberto's 1930 census?
Name: Alberto Parenti
Home in 1930: 325 green sS, San Francisco, San Francisco, California
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Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head-of-house: Head
Spouse's name: Gelsomina
Race: White
Immigration Year: 1913
Occupation: Butcher, Meat Market
Household Members: Name Age
Alberto Parenti 34
Gelsomina Parenti 34
Ida Parenti 11
WWII Draft Card
Name: Alberto Parenti
Birth Date: 30 Dec 1895
RESIDENCE: 355 Green Street, S F, California
Birth: Carraia, Italy
Person who will know your address, Gelsomina Parenti
WWI Draft Card
Name: Alberto Parente
City: San Francisco
County: San Francisco
State: California
Birthplace: Carraia, Italy
Birth Date: 30 Dec 1895
Occupation: Butcher
Employer: Parente and Zambrini
California Death Index, 1940-1997
Name: Alberto Parenti
Social Security #: 0
Sex: MALE
Birth Date: 30 Dec 1895
Birthplace: Other Country
Death Date: 30 Apr 1952
Death Place: San Francisco
Mother's Maiden Name: Biancalana
Father's Surname: Parenti
Biff
Carlo,
Although the records I posted appear to be for Alberto and his brother Giulio based on the ship manifests and places of birth, I cannot explain why his wife is shown as Gelsomina not Alice and there are no children named Norma, Marie or Gloria on the 1930 census. Perhaps there was more than one family with the Parenti surname from Capannori who emigrated to San Francisco.
1930 census for Giulio Parenti and Family
Note occupation: Proprietor Butcher Shop
Could this be Alberto's 1930 census?
Name: Alberto Parenti
Home in 1930: 325 green sS, San Francisco, San Francisco, California
View Map
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head-of-house: Head
Spouse's name: Gelsomina
Race: White
Immigration Year: 1913
Occupation: Butcher, Meat Market
Household Members: Name Age
Alberto Parenti 34
Gelsomina Parenti 34
Ida Parenti 11
WWII Draft Card
Name: Alberto Parenti
Birth Date: 30 Dec 1895
RESIDENCE: 355 Green Street, S F, California
Birth: Carraia, Italy
Person who will know your address, Gelsomina Parenti
WWI Draft Card
Name: Alberto Parente
City: San Francisco
County: San Francisco
State: California
Birthplace: Carraia, Italy
Birth Date: 30 Dec 1895
Occupation: Butcher
Employer: Parente and Zambrini
California Death Index, 1940-1997
Name: Alberto Parenti
Social Security #: 0
Sex: MALE
Birth Date: 30 Dec 1895
Birthplace: Other Country
Death Date: 30 Apr 1952
Death Place: San Francisco
Mother's Maiden Name: Biancalana
Father's Surname: Parenti
Biff
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Re: Parenti Family of Castelvecchio/ LUCCA
If Alberto Parenti is the son of Pasquale, he is still on title to property in Capannori. See other family members from the list below
(note: FU means the son or daughter of .......)
3.PARENTI Alberto;FU PASQUALE (1) Proprieta` per 1/10
4 PARENTI Armida;FU PASQUALE (1) Proprieta` per 1/10
5 PARENTI Arturo;FU PASQUALE (1) Proprieta` per 1/10
6 PARENTI Francesca;FU ODOARDO (1) Proprieta` per 1/10
7 PARENTI Giulio;FU PASQUALE (1) Proprieta` per 1/10
8 PARENTI Maria;FU ODOARDO (1) Proprieta` per 1/10
9 PARENTI Paolino;FU ODOARDO (1) Proprieta` per 1/10
10 PARENTI Rita;FU PASQUALE nata a CAPANNORI il 04/09/1901 Proprieta` per 1/10
11 PARENTI Salomina;FU ODOARDO
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(note: FU means the son or daughter of .......)
3.PARENTI Alberto;FU PASQUALE (1) Proprieta` per 1/10
4 PARENTI Armida;FU PASQUALE (1) Proprieta` per 1/10
5 PARENTI Arturo;FU PASQUALE (1) Proprieta` per 1/10
6 PARENTI Francesca;FU ODOARDO (1) Proprieta` per 1/10
7 PARENTI Giulio;FU PASQUALE (1) Proprieta` per 1/10
8 PARENTI Maria;FU ODOARDO (1) Proprieta` per 1/10
9 PARENTI Paolino;FU ODOARDO (1) Proprieta` per 1/10
10 PARENTI Rita;FU PASQUALE nata a CAPANNORI il 04/09/1901 Proprieta` per 1/10
11 PARENTI Salomina;FU ODOARDO
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This may have been the same Alberto Parenti, but his place of death was back in Italy in the 1950's and we have the photo of his cemetary plot.
He had a history of leaving one wife already. We know he was arrested for something in Truckee, California and perhaps this led to his deportation. My mother wrote to him once in the 1950's...shortly after he received the letter her grandmother is Italy informed her of his death and my Mother will not divulge to any of us what she told him.
There is another 1930 census record showing Alberto Parenti as Head of Household for Theodora Gonzales (Alice's mother) in Half Moon Bay, CA and it lists my mothers name as Dolly Parenti instead of Norma Parenti as this was apparently a nickname of hers from her Aunt Dolores (Alice's sister) the Gonzales and Barra side of my Mother's-Mother who came from Mexico via Spain as one of the original DeAnza Expedition families.
In 1997 I went to Italy to study abroad and to my surprise my Mother suggested I meet of with her cousin Vanda, but first she had to clear this with the Parenti's back in Chicago who knew the entire story of Alberto and since my late aunt June (Marie) worked with an Attorney's for about a decade to get rights to their share of his estate there was a lot of concern that I was coming to stake a claim. They were awarded a share but all 3 sisters needed to appear together...this never happened. I have the will in my possession. I have no desire for any of their property.
The whole thing is just bizarre.
He had a history of leaving one wife already. We know he was arrested for something in Truckee, California and perhaps this led to his deportation. My mother wrote to him once in the 1950's...shortly after he received the letter her grandmother is Italy informed her of his death and my Mother will not divulge to any of us what she told him.
There is another 1930 census record showing Alberto Parenti as Head of Household for Theodora Gonzales (Alice's mother) in Half Moon Bay, CA and it lists my mothers name as Dolly Parenti instead of Norma Parenti as this was apparently a nickname of hers from her Aunt Dolores (Alice's sister) the Gonzales and Barra side of my Mother's-Mother who came from Mexico via Spain as one of the original DeAnza Expedition families.
In 1997 I went to Italy to study abroad and to my surprise my Mother suggested I meet of with her cousin Vanda, but first she had to clear this with the Parenti's back in Chicago who knew the entire story of Alberto and since my late aunt June (Marie) worked with an Attorney's for about a decade to get rights to their share of his estate there was a lot of concern that I was coming to stake a claim. They were awarded a share but all 3 sisters needed to appear together...this never happened. I have the will in my possession. I have no desire for any of their property.
The whole thing is just bizarre.
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If you can leave the family history aside for the moment, are you saying that you are not interested in the abandoned property in Italy that, if you are a descentant, should pass to you according Italian law?
This means that squatters in Italy will claim it.
Anthony Alioto
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This means that squatters in Italy will claim it.
Anthony Alioto
www.italianlaw.net
San Francisco
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Because of the Chicago connection...they have made this very difficult. Today I would say that I am not interested due to financial issues in attempting to file a claim...but in theory, yes, I would eventually do this for myself and my siblings. My sister and myself are applying for Citizenship through "Jure Sanguinis" which in itself is so much work.
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Carlo,
Thanks for the additional information. That helps clarify things a bit.
For the record, here is Alberto's 1920 census.
1920 census
Name: Albert Peranti
Home in 1920: San Francisco Assembly District 33, San Francisco, California
Age: 24 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head-of-house: Head
Spouse's name: Jessie
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Butcher
Home owned: Rent
Household Members: Name Age
Albert Peranti 24
Jessie Peranti 24
Ida Peranti 1 0/12
Second 1930 census for Alberto Parenti He's listed just below the the Gonzales family and Dolly Parenti
Biff
Thanks for the additional information. That helps clarify things a bit.
For the record, here is Alberto's 1920 census.
1920 census
Name: Albert Peranti
Home in 1920: San Francisco Assembly District 33, San Francisco, California
Age: 24 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head-of-house: Head
Spouse's name: Jessie
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Butcher
Home owned: Rent
Household Members: Name Age
Albert Peranti 24
Jessie Peranti 24
Ida Peranti 1 0/12
Second 1930 census for Alberto Parenti He's listed just below the the Gonzales family and Dolly Parenti
Biff
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I have found out the Del Seppia last name connection, Gelsomina Parenti was formerly Gelsomina Del Seppia, she married Alberto Parenti.
When I was in Italy in 1997 I stayed with Lido and Vanda Del Seppia, Lido was related to Gelsomina.
This is the same Alberto Parenti, he must have left Gelsomina and his daughter Ida in San Francisco and strayed 30 miles away to Half Moon Bay where he met Alice and married her and fathered 3 daughters...Norma, Marie and Gloria...he left them too and returned to Italy where I am sure he fathered more children there.
When I was in Italy in 1997 I stayed with Lido and Vanda Del Seppia, Lido was related to Gelsomina.
This is the same Alberto Parenti, he must have left Gelsomina and his daughter Ida in San Francisco and strayed 30 miles away to Half Moon Bay where he met Alice and married her and fathered 3 daughters...Norma, Marie and Gloria...he left them too and returned to Italy where I am sure he fathered more children there.
Re: Parenti Family of Castelvecchio/ LUCCA
[align=justify]carloparenti wrote:Looking for any information on my Grandfather Alberto Parenti from Capannori, Castelvecchio LU.
He left Italy at age 17 and arrived at Ellis Island 1913, eventually making his was to San Francisco (Half Moon Bay/San Mateo County) where he married Alice his wife. They had 3 daughters, Norma, Marie and Gloria Parenti.
He left all behind for reasons unknown to me and returned to Italy after WWII where it is believed that he remarried. He never became a U.S. citizen.
Other families he may have been associated with after he returned to Italy are the Del Seppia Family in Firenze.
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My grandfather is Guilio Parenti the butcher in San Francisco referenced in the posts.
He married Clorinda Cavagnaro and they had 5 children Olga, Vera, Louis, Raymond and Gloria. All of us from Guilio Parenti live in the SF Bay Area.
His brother Albert had a wife Gesomina and they lived in San Francisco and had daughters named Norma and Emma Parenti. Both never married. Looking at the property records from Carria the names listed on ownership also mention a Rita. Whom I remember visiting San Francisco in the 80's. I don't know if this is the same Albert who had another life in HMB.
He married Clorinda Cavagnaro and they had 5 children Olga, Vera, Louis, Raymond and Gloria. All of us from Guilio Parenti live in the SF Bay Area.
His brother Albert had a wife Gesomina and they lived in San Francisco and had daughters named Norma and Emma Parenti. Both never married. Looking at the property records from Carria the names listed on ownership also mention a Rita. Whom I remember visiting San Francisco in the 80's. I don't know if this is the same Albert who had another life in HMB.
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i just posted and goofed up on acouple of things hold off on my post
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I am jBianco but I did not post the original message . I do in fact have questions about the Parenti/Biancalana and Chicago connection. My grandmother's maiden name was Isola Biancalana..from Lucca,Carraia one of the daughters of Alberto & Adela who had a cousin in Chicago named Parenti whom she lived with when she came to USA(1912). Any info about Chicago connection with Biancalana would be most appreciated.