Pietro Carswell (Casoli or Casuli) and Francesco Gennaro

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Re: Pietro Carswell (Casoli or Casuli) and Francesco Gennaro

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Francesco Gennaro does indeed appear as a god-father on the baptism record for Eugene/James.
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Just a correction on my last post:

It's a Francis Gennaro who appears as a god-father on the baptism record at St. Mary's Lochee, Dundee for Francis Caswell b.13/8/1893. Francis is the older brother of Eugene/James Carswell. Note the spelling of Cas/Cars well

It's a Louisia Eugenia followed by an unreadable mark and the name/word "Lario" I think who appears as a sponsor on the batism record for Eugene/James Carswell.
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On 1881 a Pietro Casali appears on the census, but not in Scotland...:
Nome: Pictre Casali (Pietro)
Età: 46
Anno di nascita stimato: circa 1835
Sesso: Male (Maschio)
Luogo di nascita: Italy (Italia)
Municipio: St Anne Soho
Contea/Isola: London (Londra)
Nazione: England (Inghilterra)
Indirizzo: 10 Lester Pl Frech Hospital and Dispensory
Istruzione:
Posizione nella professione:
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Professione: Workman Labourer
Distretto di registrazione: Westminster
Distretto di registrazione, istituto o nave: 15
Vicini: Visualizza altre persone nella pagina
Pezzo: 132
Folio: 66
Numero di pagina: 26
Membri del nucleo familiare:
Nome Età
John Palmer 48
Elizabeth Palmer 36
Sidney W. Palmer 12
(Sister) Celine 29
(Sister) Aglae 42
(Sister) Chiela 30
(Sister) Paula 28
(Sister) Suplenea 22
(Sister) Howela 37
(Sister) Digna 30
(Sister) Hyppalite 30
(Sister) Agashauge 26
A. R. Busby 38
Albert Van Pool 52
Leon Lesendn 46
Jean Forni 21
Henrid Alembert 65
Duncan Roger 55
Jean Theys 68
Therdore Robaldt 42
Robert Wutrich 23
Paul Cadosh 47
Emele Germae 31
Jean Benard 42
Austide Abbate 26
Amedlee Talmer 36
Pictre Casali 46
Desere Mestens 36
Laurie Angra 30
Adolphe Walmer 23
Adolphe Vigceir 48
Alfred Smith 23
Agnes Sweeney 33
Louise Gurel 36
Adele Mayer 30
Marie Valotte 55
Elie Houstekeir 24
Josephine Le Cossand 23
Joseph Le Cossand
Marie Vermenin 11



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Francesco Gennaro 1891 Scotland census:
Nome: Francesco Gennaro
Età: 27
Anno di nascita stimato: circa 1864
Parentela: Crew (Equipaggio)
Sesso: Male (Maschio)
Luogo di nascita: Genoa
Numero di registrazione: 282/3
Distretto di registrazione: St Clement
Municipio: Vessels
Contea: Angus
Professione: A B Seaman
Distretto di registrazione: S Michele
Numero del prospetto del nucleo familiare: 1
Riga: 1
Bobina: CSSCT1891_409

sorry abt italian language of record...
however Francesco said to be born in Genoa.. I believe that no one with Gennaro surname ( I believe righht DI GENNARO no just Gennaro)it was born in Genoa area but in Naples area ...
The fact that your pietro was icecream vendor don't help much.. however by a preliminary I saw that the italian surnames in Scotland, in the censuses was from Piedmont, Liguria, Emilia Romagna, Toscana and Lazio and Campania, line the west Italy regions, and no doubts that anyone is able to make the ice cream, but the vendors in Scotland, seem me that coming from Liguria and Emilia Romagna region expecially...
the watchmakers and silkworm breeders came from Lombardy; Ice cream makers, restaurateur sailors and beast tamers from Liguria and Emilia Romagna, figure makers from Tuscany, itinerant players and bear tamers from Lazio and Abruzzo and Molise, from Campania merchants, sailors, instead itinerant harpists from Basilicata .. and that the birthplace could be MORFASSO in piacenza province, Emilia Romagna region.
The big problem is the birthyear.. I understand that marrie da young woman and Pietro wanted to be more young also, but from 1835 to 1859 are a gap of 24 years, and it is a big gap...

The civil records are no availables, because in north Italy starting from 1866 ..
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Again me,
if Piacenza area could be theprobable birthplace, well I searched in the military service roll, availables from men born on 1842 and I found from 1842 to 1846 these 3 names, but Casoli spelling variants:

-CASALI Pietro Francesco #270 born in Rivalta, Piacenza, IT on 27 dec 1842 son of late Fiorenzo and Giuseppa Pancotti
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=516025

-CASALINO Pietro # 432 born in Vigevano, Pavia, IT on 13 aug 1842 son of Ambrogio and of late Margherita Marcheschi
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=516025

-CROSOLI Pietro (first box) born in Cremona, Cremona, IT on 16 Oct 1846residing in Castell'Arquato, Piacenza IT son of unknown parents
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=516025

You think that could be helpful to search also after 1846?
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-CROSOLI Pietro (first box) born in Cremona, Cremona, IT on 16 Oct 1846residing in Castell'Arquato, Piacenza IT son of unknown parents
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=516025
we can delete it as probable, as he had married in Castell'Arquato, his wife was called Luigia who died early, was widowed and in 1895 was in Italy at the marriage of his daughter. Besides, he was a bricklayer.
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