Hi ...
Does anyone know what happens - exactly whats is the process - after one has their appointment and submits their documents to the Consular officer during the "wait" period? Does the Consulate just re-review everything on their own, are all the documents reviewed in Rome, the Commune? Just curious as to what happens.
Thanks
What happens after the appointment?
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sceaminmonkey
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reviewed at the consulate. their supervisor re-reviews everything after they give it a second look.
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Just want to add that not only does the consulate review your documents, but they make the decision about your actual recognition - not Rome, nor the comune in Italy. Once your documents have been reviewed/approved, they are sent on to the comune in Italy. This is done electronically or via post. The comune in Italy transcribes your records - birth, marriage and those for any minor children. The transcription of records by the comune can take days, weeks, years ???
The best way to ensure that your records have actually been transcribed, is to request a copy of your birth record from the comune. Someone may tell you that this is not necessary, that a recognition letter from the consulate is enough. However, if you spend any time reading posts on any of these citizenship forums, you will note a recent thread from a poster in Spain who is now trying to rectify the problem created because the comune is refusing to transcribe his records. (I think the poster has an Italian passport even though the records were never transcribed!) IMHO, to verify that the process has actually been completed, it's best to request a copy of your birth record.
The best way to ensure that your records have actually been transcribed, is to request a copy of your birth record from the comune. Someone may tell you that this is not necessary, that a recognition letter from the consulate is enough. However, if you spend any time reading posts on any of these citizenship forums, you will note a recent thread from a poster in Spain who is now trying to rectify the problem created because the comune is refusing to transcribe his records. (I think the poster has an Italian passport even though the records were never transcribed!) IMHO, to verify that the process has actually been completed, it's best to request a copy of your birth record.
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.... Received my letter of recognition yesterday ... a nice way to end 2011 
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From all of us on active mailbox watch . . . Congratulations! 
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Bravo! Complimenti!
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WOW...rjnigro
That was super fast ? Like 6-7 weeks ? I guess you didn't need a second appointment ?
That was super fast ? Like 6-7 weeks ? I guess you didn't need a second appointment ?
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Congratulations! What a great way to end the year
How long did you wait?
How long did you wait?
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Appointment was early 11/2011 ... received letter 12/29.2011
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.....The best way to ensure that your records have actually been transcribed, is to request a copy of your birth record from the comune. Someone may tell you that this is not necessary, that a recognition letter from the consulate is enough. However, if you spend any time reading posts on any of these citizenship forums, you will note a recent thread from a poster in Spain who is now trying to rectify the problem created because the comune is refusing to transcribe his records. (I think the poster has an Italian passport even though the records were never transcribed!) IMHO, to verify that the process has actually been completed, it's best to request a copy of your birth record.....
If a newly recognized Italian citizen can get on a plane to Italy (and NOT Spain, by the way) with his Italian passport and letter of recognition from the consulate and easily acquire residence in a Comune OTHER than the Comune where his documents were forwarded, then it was obviously NOT necessary for him to have been given a birth record from his original comune.
The person in Spain does not have a big protblem, other than the Italian consulate in Madrid and his ancestral comune not having enough proof of who he is. He has already been given legal residence in Spain. If he wants MORE from Italy, he must now act like an Italian and take a low-budget plane trip to his ancestral comune, introduce himself and explain the situation, afterwhich his documents will be recorded since he is no longer in his consulate's jurisdiction and the matter is out of their hands.
If a newly recognized Italian citizen can get on a plane to Italy (and NOT Spain, by the way) with his Italian passport and letter of recognition from the consulate and easily acquire residence in a Comune OTHER than the Comune where his documents were forwarded, then it was obviously NOT necessary for him to have been given a birth record from his original comune.
The person in Spain does not have a big protblem, other than the Italian consulate in Madrid and his ancestral comune not having enough proof of who he is. He has already been given legal residence in Spain. If he wants MORE from Italy, he must now act like an Italian and take a low-budget plane trip to his ancestral comune, introduce himself and explain the situation, afterwhich his documents will be recorded since he is no longer in his consulate's jurisdiction and the matter is out of their hands.
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.....Just want to add that not only does the consulate review your documents, but they make the decision about your actual recognition - not Rome, nor the comune in Italy. Once your documents have been reviewed/approved, they are sent on to the comune in Italy......
This is correct. Upon review of your documents and determination that you are indeed an Italian citizen, consulate forwards the papers to the ancestral Comune. But what happens at the Comune level after documents are received is totally out of the Consulate's domain, as the only responsibility of the consulate after recognition is to issue the passport if it has been applied for. The Consulate does not get involved in the Comune's recording of documents just as the consulate does not get involved in whether or not a Comune chooses to provide a person seeking recognition with ancestral vital records. These matters are the responsibility of the individual. How an individual chooses to handle it is up to him but the Italian way is to establish a friendly rapport preferably in person, if nothing else has worked, with the people you are dealing with.
This is correct. Upon review of your documents and determination that you are indeed an Italian citizen, consulate forwards the papers to the ancestral Comune. But what happens at the Comune level after documents are received is totally out of the Consulate's domain, as the only responsibility of the consulate after recognition is to issue the passport if it has been applied for. The Consulate does not get involved in the Comune's recording of documents just as the consulate does not get involved in whether or not a Comune chooses to provide a person seeking recognition with ancestral vital records. These matters are the responsibility of the individual. How an individual chooses to handle it is up to him but the Italian way is to establish a friendly rapport preferably in person, if nothing else has worked, with the people you are dealing with.
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I will be following up with the Commune to obtain my BC
