Thinking about Jure Sanguinis

[Chocopies]

I am thinking of reclaiming Italian citizenship for my son's sake. Could someone explain to me whether we are eligible and, if so, what I would need to bring to Italy.

My maternal GGPs both immigrated from Sicily in the early 1900s. My maternal GGF immigrated in 1912 and passed away in the 1930s having never naturalized (at least according to the 1920 and 1930 censuses which label him 'AL'). My GF was born in the US before 1920 and my mother in the early 1950s. My father's side of the family is not Italian.

Would birth certificates for myself, son, mother, grandfather and great grandfather be sufficient? I also have birth certificates for myself, my parents and my great grandparents, but not my grandparents.
Thank you for your help!

[mler]

Yes you qualify, and this process can be completed at the Italian consulate serving your area of residency.

You will need considerably more documentation than you currently possess and will likely need to reorder some documents to obtain the necessary apostilles. Check your consulate’s website for a complete list of required documents.

[Chocopies]

Thank you, I was hoping that we qualify. I checked the local Consulate as you suggested, but they do not provide any lists of documents required. Do I just need to go to the Consulate today and ask them?

[Chocopies]

The Consulate only mentions this document: Circolare n. K. 28.1 (below)

So I need:

- my GGF, GF, Mother's, Mine, My son's birth records
- My GGP, GP, parents and my own marriage record
- proof none of my ancestors naturalized or renounced their Italian citizenship
- proof of current residence

Does this sound right?

"Le stesse dovranno essere corredate
dalla seguente documentazione:
1.
estratto dell’atto di nascita dell’avo it
aliano emigrato all’estero rilasciato
dal Comune italiano ove egli nacque;
2.
atti di nascita, muniti di traduzione ufficiale italiana, di tutti i suoi
discendenti in linea retta, compreso quello della persona rivendicante il
possesso della cittadinanza italiana;
3.
atto di matrimonio dell’avo italiano
emigrato all’estero, munito di
traduzione ufficiale italiana se formato all’estero;
4.
atti di matrimonio dei suoi discenden
ti, in linea retta, compreso quello
dei genitori della persona rivendicante il possesso della cittadinanza
italiana;
5.
certificato rilasciato dalle competenti Autorità dello Stato estero di
emigrazione, munito di traduzione u
fficiale in lingua italiana, attestante
che l’avo italiano a suo tempo emigrato dall’Italia non acquistò la
cittadinanza dello Stato estero di emigrazione anteriormente alla nascita
dell’ascendente dell’interessato;

6.
certificato rilasciato dalla competen
te Autorità consolare italiana
attestante che né gli ascendenti in linea diretta né la persona
rivendicante il possesso della cittadinanza italiana vi abbiano mai
rinunciato ai termini dell’art. 7 della legge 13 giugno 1912, n. 555;
7.
certificato di residenza.

[mler]

duplicate post

[mler]

Also, all US-issued documents must be in long form, apostilled and translated. From NY:

https://consnewyork.esteri.it/consolato ... /iure.html

[Chocopies]

Thank you, that is very helpful. I noticed that they ask for a death record in New York. Is that typical, or just a US thing? Also, can you recommend any online translators for these documents? I think it will be very difficult to find an Italian translator in my country.

[mler]

Most consulates require death records. They can also recommend translators.

[Chocopies]

The consulate is closed today, but I will ask them on Monday for recommendations. Thank you. Also, my family says that my grandfather was born at home and that there is no record of his birth in the county. I know that the state kept no records of births until a few years after he was born. This makes me think there will be no record in Italy either, leaving only his Catholic baptism record. Do you think this be sufficient?

[mler]

Hard to tell; depends on the consulate.

[Italiaup]

Italian Consulates do not require a certain transcriber. You can find some on Fiverr.com. That is one of the last steps though. First you have to get all the documents in Naturalization for your GGF. Then the birth, death and marriage certificates for your Italian line

[Italiaup]

I should say that most Italian Consulates don t require a certain translator. I know a lot of people applying for dual citizenship use Fiverr.

[Chocopies]

Italian Consulates do not require a certain transcriber. You can find some on Fiverr.com. That is one of the last steps though. First you have to get all the documents in Naturalization for your GGF. Then the birth, death and marriage certificates for your Italian line

Thank you for the advice, I am sure it will be useful!