Security Decree - Coming Monday 9/23

Over 25 million Italians have emigrated between 1861 and 1960 with a migration boom between 1871 and 1915 when over 13,5 million emigrants left the country for European and overseas destinations.
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Re: Security Decree - Coming Monday 9/23

Post by mler » 29 Sep 2018, 15:05

Of course not. They are counting everyone (or trying to). That’s what happens in a census. It’s a costly procedure, and as we have seen in the US, not always accurate; but it’s the best way governments have to track demographic changes.

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Re: Security Decree - Coming Monday 9/23

Post by rjnigro » 03 Oct 2018, 18:08

George Orwell ended “Animal Farm” with the words: “All Animals are Equal, but some are More Equal than Others.” I sincerely hope “Italians First” refers to ALL Italians.
Very well stated ... "Legge E' Uguale per Tutti"

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Post by jennabet » 04 Oct 2018, 11:36

This census is to count the people residing in Italy, whomever they are and for what ever reason they're here. It will not count Italians abroad. And it will be done every year. People who are not here legally will be told to leave or be removed and sent to repatriation centers to await deportation. The time they are allowed to be detained until deportation has increased with the new security decree.

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Post by jennabet » 04 Oct 2018, 15:01

OpusReticulatum wrote:
26 Sep 2018, 21:34
Good news.


Here is just one scenario which shows why JM citizenship recognition is important:

An Italian-citizen husband and non-Italian wife move to Italy. The wife doesn't seek Italian citizenship, since non-Italian spouses can live in Italy with their Italian spouses.
The residency law changes and non-Italian spouses are no longer guaranteed the ability to live in Italy. The non-Italian wife suddenly faces the prospect that she might be deported. If she had become a citizen prior, deportation wouldn't be a threat.



Any American citizen who has ever married a foreigner in the USA and filed a petition for a conditional greencard for that spouse knows that it is a VERY COSTLY endeavor and can take up to TEN years for the foreign spouse to become a naturalized American citizen. If conditions change, yes it is possible that a foreign spouse could be deported. That is the way the cookie crumbles. Rightly so, Italy has now extended the wait time for naturalization to four years with NO guarantee for foreign spouses. Actually the fee should be more in line with the fee for US naturalization and the wait time should be more in line with the USA as well -- up to ten years. Also a foreigner married to an American citizen would never be allowed to apply to become a naturalized American citizen from outside the USA. A similar rule should apply for Italy. The foreign spouse of an Italian citizen should only be allowed to apply for Italian citizenship after meeting a residence requirement in Italy. Not resident? Citizenship not needed.

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Re: Security Decree - Coming Monday 9/23

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