Name discrepancies and "One and the Same Person" court orders

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Name discrepancies and "One and the Same Person" court orders

Post by njb » 31 Jan 2019, 19:17

Below I have listed some naming discrepancies in my lineage back to Italy. I would like to know the likelihood that I will be required to obtain "One and the Same Person" court orders when I apply for jure sanguinis.

  • Family name: Occasionally spelled with and "a" at the end until the 1920s, then always spelled with an "o".
  • 2nd great grandmother: Birth certificate reads "Renda", all other documents read "Renna".
  • Great grandfather: Birth certificate reads "Vincenzo", marriage certificate reads "James V.", all other documents read "James" (I understand that this was common for Sicilian families).
  • Great grandmother: Birth certificate reads "DiVincenzi", marriage certificate reads "DiVincenzo".
  • Grandfather: Birth certificate reads "Pasquale Nicholas", marriage certificate reads "Nicholas Patrick", all other documents read "Patrick Nicholas".

Luckily, my grandfather is still alive and my lineage back to Italy is through all male ascendants, so I hope there will be less concern with the discrepancies for my female ascendants.

There are a few "date" discrepancies as well, mostly having to do when the age was listed rather than the date of birth. Should I be concerned with that as well?

Edit: I should note, the only Italian documents I require are my 2nd great grandparents' birth certificates. All others in question are from New York City, and I will be applying at the New York consulate.

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Re: Name discrepancies and "One and the Same Person" court orders

Post by Cristina319 » 05 Mar 2019, 04:27

I had similar problems, and an Italian lawyer told me I would have to go to court to have them all changed. My birth county would not do that, nor would they give me a "one and the same" certificate signed by a judge. I let that atty and went through an agency. THey told me all I needed was to write a document stating that "Dan" was "Donato," "Mary" was "Maria," etc., have it notarized and apostilled, and I would be fine.

I had no problem and got my citizenship last week.

PM me if you have questions.

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Re: Name discrepancies and "One and the Same Person" court orders

Post by ericderrico » 09 Mar 2019, 17:55

Cristina,

Are you saying you just write a letter and have it notarized at your local jurisdiction? I'm a little confused as it seems like this could easily be abused? Is it that simple?

Thanks!
Researching surnames: D'Errico, Bellotti (and other spellings), D'Avolio, Calvano, Marano

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